Comments on: Online video: can it get any worse than this? http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2007/02/20/online-video-can-it-get-any-worse-than-this/ A conversation. Sat, 11 Feb 2012 08:45:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Martin Stabe » links for 2007-02-23 http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2007/02/20/online-video-can-it-get-any-worse-than-this/#comment-773 Martin Stabe » links for 2007-02-23 Fri, 23 Feb 2007 12:23:20 +0000 http://onlinejournalismblog.wordpress.com/2007/02/20/online-video-can-it-get-any-worse-than-this/#comment-773 [...] Online Journalism Blog: Online video: can it get any worse than this? Paul Bradshaw: “It is with a deep sense of shame that I nominate the newspaper I grew up with - The Bolton (formerly Evening) News - for the worst attempt at online video I’ve seen so far.” (tags: newspapers onlinejournalism video multimedia online journalism) [...] [...] Online Journalism Blog: Online video: can it get any worse than this? Paul Bradshaw: “It is with a deep sense of shame that I nominate the newspaper I grew up with – The Bolton (formerly Evening) News – for the worst attempt at online video I’ve seen so far.” (tags: newspapers onlinejournalism video multimedia online journalism) [...]

]]> By: Papers do video, with mixed results » mathewingram.com/work http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2007/02/20/online-video-can-it-get-any-worse-than-this/#comment-772 Papers do video, with mixed results » mathewingram.com/work Fri, 23 Feb 2007 01:29:59 +0000 http://onlinejournalismblog.wordpress.com/2007/02/20/online-video-can-it-get-any-worse-than-this/#comment-772 [...] of the Online Journalism blog says that his hometown newspaper in Bolton is one of those that seems to be struggling with the whole concept. In fact, Paul says its efforts are “the worst attempt at online video [...] [...] of the Online Journalism blog says that his hometown newspaper in Bolton is one of those that seems to be struggling with the whole concept. In fact, Paul says its efforts are “the worst attempt at online video [...]

]]> By: robb montgomery - CEO http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2007/02/20/online-video-can-it-get-any-worse-than-this/#comment-771 robb montgomery - CEO Thu, 22 Feb 2007 20:03:04 +0000 http://onlinejournalismblog.wordpress.com/2007/02/20/online-video-can-it-get-any-worse-than-this/#comment-771 When I work with newspaper editors and reporters on Web video projects I recommend a layered approach. The first layer is reporters carrying small, durable cameras that can take usuable video - they are on them at all times so that they can be used to get the stories WHERE THE STORIES ARE - not where the editors are. That's the first layer, the second involves dedicated videojournalists and producers doing projects work and other regular news features. There's more to newspaper video than merely parotting what broadcast TV does. There is more than having a slick interface. If you don't have compelling content and invlove interactive social media tools with your video reports it won't matter. Web video is a new medium, demands different story approaches and editorial experience in making the right types of assignments. They cannot be assigned like typical newspaper photo assignments. The learning curve here is huge. But, at least efforts are starting to be made. When I work with newspaper editors and reporters on Web video projects I recommend a layered approach.

The first layer is reporters carrying small, durable cameras that can take usuable video – they are on them at all times so that they can be used to get the stories WHERE THE STORIES ARE – not where the editors are.

That’s the first layer, the second involves dedicated videojournalists and producers doing projects work and other regular news features.

There’s more to newspaper video than merely parotting what broadcast TV does. There is more than having a slick interface. If you don’t have compelling content and invlove interactive social media tools with your video reports it won’t matter.

Web video is a new medium, demands different story approaches and editorial experience in making the right types of assignments. They cannot be assigned like typical newspaper photo assignments. The learning curve here is huge. But, at least efforts are starting to be made.

]]> By: Papers do video, with mixed results » mathewingram.com/media http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2007/02/20/online-video-can-it-get-any-worse-than-this/#comment-770 Papers do video, with mixed results » mathewingram.com/media Thu, 22 Feb 2007 18:12:06 +0000 http://onlinejournalismblog.wordpress.com/2007/02/20/online-video-can-it-get-any-worse-than-this/#comment-770 [...] of the Online Journalism blog says that his hometown newspaper in Bolton is one of those that seems to be struggling with the whole concept. In fact, Paul says its efforts are “the worst attempt at online video [...] [...] of the Online Journalism blog says that his hometown newspaper in Bolton is one of those that seems to be struggling with the whole concept. In fact, Paul says its efforts are “the worst attempt at online video [...]

]]> By: claus.blog » Zeitungen mit Video-News: Gut gemeint ist das Gegenteil von gut produziert http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2007/02/20/online-video-can-it-get-any-worse-than-this/#comment-769 claus.blog » Zeitungen mit Video-News: Gut gemeint ist das Gegenteil von gut produziert Thu, 22 Feb 2007 16:47:05 +0000 http://onlinejournalismblog.wordpress.com/2007/02/20/online-video-can-it-get-any-worse-than-this/#comment-769 [...] [via] Fernsehen Internet Journalismus nachrichten Onlinejournalismus video video news zeitungen [...] [...] [via] Fernsehen Internet Journalismus nachrichten Onlinejournalismus video video news zeitungen [...]

]]> By: Robert http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2007/02/20/online-video-can-it-get-any-worse-than-this/#comment-768 Robert Wed, 21 Feb 2007 19:13:33 +0000 http://onlinejournalismblog.wordpress.com/2007/02/20/online-video-can-it-get-any-worse-than-this/#comment-768 Two points here. First, yes a bulletin on a website in this form isn't great. It could be better, but what's really missing are the journalists actually heading off and recording some of their own video to include. Secondly, this format *could* work, just not on a website like this because we have all the stories around us in a non-linear form. Where a bulletin like this comes into its own is when we are removed from the website. eg, video download, or IPTV service, such as BT Vision. Two points here. First, yes a bulletin on a website in this form isn’t great. It could be better, but what’s really missing are the journalists actually heading off and recording some of their own video to include.

Secondly, this format *could* work, just not on a website like this because we have all the stories around us in a non-linear form. Where a bulletin like this comes into its own is when we are removed from the website. eg, video download, or IPTV service, such as BT Vision.

]]> By: Paul Groves http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2007/02/20/online-video-can-it-get-any-worse-than-this/#comment-767 Paul Groves Wed, 21 Feb 2007 12:08:15 +0000 http://onlinejournalismblog.wordpress.com/2007/02/20/online-video-can-it-get-any-worse-than-this/#comment-767 As an ex-regional newspaper hack for over 15 I can applaud the fact that papers are finally waking up to such things. But the way in which they are doing it is disappointing to say the least. You've got another great example of a missed opportunity in Birmingham - the attempt at creating a Post Blog on icbirmingham. If you're going to do it, at least try and make it look good - a lesson that extends to so many things in life. As an ex-regional newspaper hack for over 15 I can applaud the fact that papers are finally waking up to such things. But the way in which they are doing it is disappointing to say the least.
You’ve got another great example of a missed opportunity in Birmingham – the attempt at creating a Post Blog on icbirmingham.
If you’re going to do it, at least try and make it look good – a lesson that extends to so many things in life.

]]> By: Andy http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2007/02/20/online-video-can-it-get-any-worse-than-this/#comment-766 Andy Wed, 21 Feb 2007 11:09:12 +0000 http://onlinejournalismblog.wordpress.com/2007/02/20/online-video-can-it-get-any-worse-than-this/#comment-766 I get the same problem with Night nurse - makes me see things as well Hot water, lemon, honey and a drop of whiskey - homemade lemsip Get well soon. I get the same problem with Night nurse – makes me see things as well

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]]> By: paulbradshaw http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2007/02/20/online-video-can-it-get-any-worse-than-this/#comment-765 paulbradshaw Wed, 21 Feb 2007 09:44:43 +0000 http://onlinejournalismblog.wordpress.com/2007/02/20/online-video-can-it-get-any-worse-than-this/#comment-765 Yes, I'm being rather unforgiving. I put it down to being very crabby with this recurrent virus that's forcing me to drink Lemsip Max, a torture that no one should have to endure. Yes, I’m being rather unforgiving. I put it down to being very crabby with this recurrent virus that’s forcing me to drink Lemsip Max, a torture that no one should have to endure.

]]> By: Newspaer video: Who cares what it is. Why are we doing it? : Andy Dickinson.net http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2007/02/20/online-video-can-it-get-any-worse-than-this/#comment-764 Newspaer video: Who cares what it is. Why are we doing it? : Andy Dickinson.net Tue, 20 Feb 2007 19:14:27 +0000 http://onlinejournalismblog.wordpress.com/2007/02/20/online-video-can-it-get-any-worse-than-this/#comment-764 [...] Bradshaw is increasingly despairing of his old paper’s efforts at producing video. To him it’s a poor rip-off of a TV bulletin I’m getting close to the point of making my [...] [...] Bradshaw is increasingly despairing of his old paper’s efforts at producing video. To him it’s a poor rip-off of a TV bulletin I’m getting close to the point of making my [...]

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