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	<title>Comments on: Web culture “degrades valuable things&#8221;? A rant at David Leigh</title>
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		<title>By: paulbradshaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>paulbradshaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:35:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I am missing his point, which is a fair one, if ill-founded. It would just benefit from being better informed. The web is not a place where &quot;other people&quot; live. &#039;Slow journalism&#039; has been under attack since well before the web - and actually the web&#039;s permanence provides one way to revitalise it.
But yes, you&#039;re right: we do need to address the how and why rather than make the opposing error and assume technology will do this for us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I am missing his point, which is a fair one, if ill-founded. It would just benefit from being better informed. The web is not a place where &#8220;other people&#8221; live. &#8216;Slow journalism&#8217; has been under attack since well before the web &#8211; and actually the web&#8217;s permanence provides one way to revitalise it.<br />
But yes, you&#8217;re right: we do need to address the how and why rather than make the opposing error and assume technology will do this for us.</p>
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		<title>By: Aron Pilhofer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aron Pilhofer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Paul,

I think you&#039;re right -- but wrong. I can&#039;t argue with your specific quibbles, but, boy, you&#039;re really missing his point: lamenting the apparent end of &quot;slow journalism,&quot; as he puts it. Bloggers have their place, but even you have to concede that there&#039;s not a lot of great investigative blogging going on out there, nor is there likely to be. If our future looks anything like the present, Leigh is pretty much spot on when he says &quot;I don’t want to see a journalistic future made up of hyper-active News Bunnies and narcissistic bloggers.&quot; That doesn&#039;t mean there isn&#039;t great journalism of some stripe online, it&#039;s just not the kind of agenda-setting, perception-changing journalism that has defined David Leigh&#039;s career. That&#039;s a serious deficiency online media advocates to confront, not brush aside.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Paul,</p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re right &#8212; but wrong. I can&#8217;t argue with your specific quibbles, but, boy, you&#8217;re really missing his point: lamenting the apparent end of &#8220;slow journalism,&#8221; as he puts it. Bloggers have their place, but even you have to concede that there&#8217;s not a lot of great investigative blogging going on out there, nor is there likely to be. If our future looks anything like the present, Leigh is pretty much spot on when he says &#8220;I don’t want to see a journalistic future made up of hyper-active News Bunnies and narcissistic bloggers.&#8221; That doesn&#8217;t mean there isn&#8217;t great journalism of some stripe online, it&#8217;s just not the kind of agenda-setting, perception-changing journalism that has defined David Leigh&#8217;s career. That&#8217;s a serious deficiency online media advocates to confront, not brush aside.</p>
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