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		<title>By: Jarle Petterson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jarle Petterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 12:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks a lot for your interesting view on iNorden. It would seem that you&#039;ve got it all covered, pretty much, except maybe, from a few minor details:

iNorden launched a month and a half ago, which means that it so far is everything but what it&#039;s intended to be (well, we&#039;re beginning to get an idea, but...). That very much applies to the design, too, although I think we&#039;re onto something, in terms of framework -- and the way we&#039;re about to organise the site (sections with dedicated section fronts are in the making).

We&#039;ve decided that, for now, we don&#039;t want ads on our site, simply beacause we think it&#039;d be devastating for our credibility. Too many mainstream media corporations have ventured into civic journalism in order to profit on the hype -- financially.

Should we at any time consider allowing ads, it would have to be because we&#039;d need &lt;em&gt;to make money in order to practice citizen journalism&lt;/em&gt;, not &lt;em&gt;practicing citizen journalism in order to make money&lt;/em&gt;, as is the case in the established media.

As for improved positioning, you&#039;re spot on. We need it desperately. It&#039;s all a little Catch 22-ish, really, that on one hand we&#039;re unwilling to generate an income, while on the other, we could really use funds for marketing purposes. When it comes to positioning content-wise, I think you&#039;d find there&#039;s plenty of that in the national editions (www.iNorden.dk, www.iNorden.no and www.iNorden.se), where most of what is considered citizen journalism is found, whereas the &lt;a href=&quot;http://english.inorden.org&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;international edition&lt;/a&gt; serves as a means of providing Nordic news to a foreign audience only, as such an offer is in effect non-existing elsewhere. Surely, there are various national news outlets in English, but none representing the Nordic region -- or Scandinavia -- as such. Which is why very little of what might be considered traditional citizen journalism is found in that particular edition, which, I take it, is the only edition you&#039;ve been able to review -- given the other editions&#039; language(s).

There&#039;s yet a dimension to iNorden.org, apart from promoting citizen journalism in the region; namely that of creating a common Nordic ground of sorts, as there have been no alternatives in that respect either.

Finally, I&#039;d like to draw everyone&#039;s attention to &lt;a href=&quot;http://inorden.org/?p=678&amp;language=en&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;. The thing is: We haven&#039;t, so far, been able to mobilise a correspondent corps for the international edition -- which probably explains some of its obvious shortcomings, as of yet. We&#039;d be overjoyed if anyone out there would be interested.

But for now: Thanks a million for an interesting review -- and a very merry Christmas to you and your readers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks a lot for your interesting view on iNorden. It would seem that you&#8217;ve got it all covered, pretty much, except maybe, from a few minor details:</p>
<p>iNorden launched a month and a half ago, which means that it so far is everything but what it&#8217;s intended to be (well, we&#8217;re beginning to get an idea, but&#8230;). That very much applies to the design, too, although I think we&#8217;re onto something, in terms of framework &#8212; and the way we&#8217;re about to organise the site (sections with dedicated section fronts are in the making).</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve decided that, for now, we don&#8217;t want ads on our site, simply beacause we think it&#8217;d be devastating for our credibility. Too many mainstream media corporations have ventured into civic journalism in order to profit on the hype &#8212; financially.</p>
<p>Should we at any time consider allowing ads, it would have to be because we&#8217;d need <em>to make money in order to practice citizen journalism</em>, not <em>practicing citizen journalism in order to make money</em>, as is the case in the established media.</p>
<p>As for improved positioning, you&#8217;re spot on. We need it desperately. It&#8217;s all a little Catch 22-ish, really, that on one hand we&#8217;re unwilling to generate an income, while on the other, we could really use funds for marketing purposes. When it comes to positioning content-wise, I think you&#8217;d find there&#8217;s plenty of that in the national editions (www.iNorden.dk, <a href="http://www.iNorden.no" rel="nofollow" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.iNorden.no?referer=');">http://www.iNorden.no</a> and <a href="http://www.iNorden.se" rel="nofollow" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.iNorden.se?referer=');">http://www.iNorden.se</a>), where most of what is considered citizen journalism is found, whereas the <a href="http://english.inorden.org" rel="nofollow" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/english.inorden.org?referer=');">international edition</a> serves as a means of providing Nordic news to a foreign audience only, as such an offer is in effect non-existing elsewhere. Surely, there are various national news outlets in English, but none representing the Nordic region &#8212; or Scandinavia &#8212; as such. Which is why very little of what might be considered traditional citizen journalism is found in that particular edition, which, I take it, is the only edition you&#8217;ve been able to review &#8212; given the other editions&#8217; language(s).</p>
<p>There&#8217;s yet a dimension to iNorden.org, apart from promoting citizen journalism in the region; namely that of creating a common Nordic ground of sorts, as there have been no alternatives in that respect either.</p>
<p>Finally, I&#8217;d like to draw everyone&#8217;s attention to <a href="http://inorden.org/?p=678&amp;language=en" rel="nofollow" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/inorden.org/?p=678_amp_language=en&amp;referer=');">this</a>. The thing is: We haven&#8217;t, so far, been able to mobilise a correspondent corps for the international edition &#8212; which probably explains some of its obvious shortcomings, as of yet. We&#8217;d be overjoyed if anyone out there would be interested.</p>
<p>But for now: Thanks a million for an interesting review &#8212; and a very merry Christmas to you and your readers.</p>
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		<title>By: Jarle Petterson</title>
		<link>http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2007/12/10/review-inorden/#comment-3644</link>
		<dc:creator>Jarle Petterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 12:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks a lot for your interesting view on iNorden. It would seem that you&#039;ve got it all covered, pretty much, except maybe, from a few minor details:

iNorden launched a month and a half ago, which means that it so far is everything but what it&#039;s intended to be (well, we&#039;re beginning to get an idea, but...). That very much applies to the design, too, although I think we&#039;re onto something, in terms of framework -- and the way we&#039;re about to organise the site (sections with dedicated section fronts are in the making).

We&#039;ve decided that, for now, we don&#039;t want ads on our site, simply beacause we think it&#039;d be devastating for our credibility. Too many mainstream media corporations have ventured into civic journalism in order to profit on the hype -- financially.

Should we at any time consider allowing ads, it would have to be because we&#039;d need &lt;em&gt;to make money in order to practice citizen journalism&lt;/em&gt;, not &lt;em&gt;practicing citizen journalism in order to make money&lt;/em&gt;, as is the case in the established media.

As for improved positioning, you&#039;re spot on. We need it desperately. It&#039;s all a little Catch 22-ish, really, that on one hand we&#039;re unwilling to generate an income, while on the other, we could really use funds for marketing purposes. When it comes to positioning content-wise, I think you&#039;d find there&#039;s plenty of that in the national editions (www.iNorden.dk, www.iNorden.no and www.iNorden.se), where most of what is considered citizen journalism is found, whereas the &lt;a href=&quot;http://english.inorden.org&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;international edition&lt;/em&gt; serves as a means of providing Nordic news to a foreign audience only, as such an offer is in effect non-existing elsewhere. Surely, there are various national news outlets in English, but none representing the Nordic region -- or Scandinavia -- as such. Which is why very little of what might be considered traditional citizen journalism is found in that particular edition, which, I take it, is the only edition you&#039;ve been able to review -- given the other editions&#039; language(s).

There&#039;s yet a dimension to iNorden.org, apart from promoting citizen journalism in the region; namely that of creating a common Nordic ground of sorts, as there have been no alternatives in that respect either.

Finally, I&#039;d like to draw everyone&#039;s attention to &lt;a href=&quot;http://inorden.org/?p=678&amp;language=en&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;. The thing is: We haven&#039;t, so far, been able to mobilise a correspondent corps for the international edition -- which probably explains some of its obvious shortcomings, as of yet. We&#039;d be overjoyed if anyone out there would be interested.

But for now: Thanks a million for an interesting review -- and a very merry Christmas to you and your readers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks a lot for your interesting view on iNorden. It would seem that you&#8217;ve got it all covered, pretty much, except maybe, from a few minor details:</p>
<p>iNorden launched a month and a half ago, which means that it so far is everything but what it&#8217;s intended to be (well, we&#8217;re beginning to get an idea, but&#8230;). That very much applies to the design, too, although I think we&#8217;re onto something, in terms of framework &#8212; and the way we&#8217;re about to organise the site (sections with dedicated section fronts are in the making).</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve decided that, for now, we don&#8217;t want ads on our site, simply beacause we think it&#8217;d be devastating for our credibility. Too many mainstream media corporations have ventured into civic journalism in order to profit on the hype &#8212; financially.</p>
<p>Should we at any time consider allowing ads, it would have to be because we&#8217;d need <em>to make money in order to practice citizen journalism</em>, not <em>practicing citizen journalism in order to make money</em>, as is the case in the established media.</p>
<p>As for improved positioning, you&#8217;re spot on. We need it desperately. It&#8217;s all a little Catch 22-ish, really, that on one hand we&#8217;re unwilling to generate an income, while on the other, we could really use funds for marketing purposes. When it comes to positioning content-wise, I think you&#8217;d find there&#8217;s plenty of that in the national editions (www.iNorden.dk, <a href="http://www.iNorden.no" rel="nofollow" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.iNorden.no?referer=');">http://www.iNorden.no</a> and <a href="http://www.iNorden.se" rel="nofollow" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.iNorden.se?referer=');">http://www.iNorden.se</a>), where most of what is considered citizen journalism is found, whereas the <a href="http://english.inorden.org" rel="nofollow" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/english.inorden.org?referer=');">international edition serves as a means of providing Nordic news to a foreign audience only, as such an offer is in effect non-existing elsewhere. Surely, there are various national news outlets in English, but none representing the Nordic region &#8212; or Scandinavia &#8212; as such. Which is why very little of what might be considered traditional citizen journalism is found in that particular edition, which, I take it, is the only edition you&#8217;ve been able to review &#8212; given the other editions&#8217; language(s).</p>
<p>There&#8217;s yet a dimension to iNorden.org, apart from promoting citizen journalism in the region; namely that of creating a common Nordic ground of sorts, as there have been no alternatives in that respect either.</p>
<p>Finally, I&#8217;d like to draw everyone&#8217;s attention to </a><a href="http://inorden.org/?p=678&amp;language=en" rel="nofollow" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/inorden.org/?p=678_amp_language=en&amp;referer=');">this</a>. The thing is: We haven&#8217;t, so far, been able to mobilise a correspondent corps for the international edition &#8212; which probably explains some of its obvious shortcomings, as of yet. We&#8217;d be overjoyed if anyone out there would be interested.</p>
<p>But for now: Thanks a million for an interesting review &#8212; and a very merry Christmas to you and your readers.</p>
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