Comments on: “The first and the last word on a story”? Clarifying the 21st century newsroom http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2008/03/05/the-first-and-the-last-word-on-a-story-clarifying-the-21st-century-newsroom/ A conversation. Sat, 11 Feb 2012 08:45:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: gatewatching » Blog Archive » From “the First and Last Word” to News as Conversation http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2008/03/05/the-first-and-the-last-word-on-a-story-clarifying-the-21st-century-newsroom/#comment-4542 gatewatching » Blog Archive » From “the First and Last Word” to News as Conversation Mon, 10 Mar 2008 06:05:56 +0000 http://onlinejournalismblog.wordpress.com/?p=1023#comment-4542 [...] post was triggered in a somewhat roundabout way - Paul Bradshaw over at Online Journalism Blog picks up on a report from the Digital News Affairs conference, covering a speech by Digital Editor [...] [...] post was triggered in a somewhat roundabout way – Paul Bradshaw over at Online Journalism Blog picks up on a report from the Digital News Affairs conference, covering a speech by Digital Editor [...]

]]> By: Notes from a Teacher: Mark on Media » Thursday squibs http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2008/03/05/the-first-and-the-last-word-on-a-story-clarifying-the-21st-century-newsroom/#comment-4545 Notes from a Teacher: Mark on Media » Thursday squibs Fri, 07 Mar 2008 06:52:20 +0000 http://onlinejournalismblog.wordpress.com/?p=1023#comment-4545 [...] “The first and the last word on a story”? Clarifying the 21st century newsroom. Great post, great questions and great conversation about newspapers, journalism and the web. [...] [...] “The first and the last word on a story”? Clarifying the 21st century newsroom. Great post, great questions and great conversation about newspapers, journalism and the web. [...]

]]> By: Devi http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2008/03/05/the-first-and-the-last-word-on-a-story-clarifying-the-21st-century-newsroom/#comment-4541 Devi Thu, 06 Mar 2008 13:02:42 +0000 http://onlinejournalismblog.wordpress.com/?p=1023#comment-4541 Interesting - but I still can't answer your questions. They are right on the spot! Interesting – but I still can’t answer your questions. They are right on the spot!

]]> By: Nick Booth http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2008/03/05/the-first-and-the-last-word-on-a-story-clarifying-the-21st-century-newsroom/#comment-4546 Nick Booth Wed, 05 Mar 2008 18:05:03 +0000 http://onlinejournalismblog.wordpress.com/?p=1023#comment-4546 It's good to see your thinking is bearing fruit. That's seems to me to be a marketing line aimed at those who still believe that information in a completable "thing" if only you get the right professionals working on it. It must be to persuade people to use their site as a first port rather than the BBC or Google. The idea of genuinely being "first" is oddly new for a newspaper - who surrendered that piece of ground to broadcaster a while back. I like Andy's more positive approach to the necessity of news moving the professional writers onto what's new. Of course the best way to handle this is to encourage the readers to keep updating and adding. As you've recomended all along It’s good to see your thinking is bearing fruit.

That’s seems to me to be a marketing line aimed at those who still believe that information in a completable “thing” if only you get the right professionals working on it.

It must be to persuade people to use their site as a first port rather than the BBC or Google. The idea of genuinely being “first” is oddly new for a newspaper – who surrendered that piece of ground to broadcaster a while back.

I like Andy’s more positive approach to the necessity of news moving the professional writers onto what’s new. Of course the best way to handle this is to encourage the readers to keep updating and adding. As you’ve recomended all along

]]> By: Alfred Hermida http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2008/03/05/the-first-and-the-last-word-on-a-story-clarifying-the-21st-century-newsroom/#comment-4547 Alfred Hermida Wed, 05 Mar 2008 17:34:45 +0000 http://onlinejournalismblog.wordpress.com/?p=1023#comment-4547 It is interesting to see this model adopted by newspapers. This is exactly how we would handle breaking news when I was a news editor at the BBC News website. This was always the approach from when the site was launched in 1997 and it was honed down to a seamless operation by the time of the Paddington rail crash in 2001. It is interesting to see this model adopted by newspapers. This is exactly how we would handle breaking news when I was a news editor at the BBC News website. This was always the approach from when the site was launched in 1997 and it was honed down to a seamless operation by the time of the Paddington rail crash in 2001.

]]> By: andy http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2008/03/05/the-first-and-the-last-word-on-a-story-clarifying-the-21st-century-newsroom/#comment-4548 andy Wed, 05 Mar 2008 16:31:11 +0000 http://onlinejournalismblog.wordpress.com/?p=1023#comment-4548 I agree. It's always worth stressing this stuff otherwise it's bound to be interpreted by some as an invitation to do the kind of shovel ware for community engagement thing. Of course we are engaging with our users - we put all our stuff on the web! I agree. It’s always worth stressing this stuff otherwise it’s bound to be interpreted by some as an invitation to do the kind of shovel ware for community engagement thing. Of course we are engaging with our users – we put all our stuff on the web!

]]> By: paulbradshaw http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2008/03/05/the-first-and-the-last-word-on-a-story-clarifying-the-21st-century-newsroom/#comment-4544 paulbradshaw Wed, 05 Mar 2008 16:07:54 +0000 http://onlinejournalismblog.wordpress.com/?p=1023#comment-4544 Love the 'last word...' update idea. Am sure I'm being neurotic about it, but a point worth making anyway. Love the ‘last word…’ update idea.
Am sure I’m being neurotic about it, but a point worth making anyway.

]]> By: Andy http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2008/03/05/the-first-and-the-last-word-on-a-story-clarifying-the-21st-century-newsroom/#comment-4543 Andy Wed, 05 Mar 2008 15:59:24 +0000 http://onlinejournalismblog.wordpress.com/?p=1023#comment-4543 I think it was the cutness of the saying rather than the language - but wouldnt want to put words in his mouth I think in the context of when do you, as the journalist has to, shift your focus on to developing the next story - publication deadlines and all that - the last word has a certain necessity about it. Doesnt mean the story is dead but perhas the last editorial word. In that respect you could see the last word as less final and more dynamic - "the last word on this subject someone had to say was yesterday at 12:00" kind of thing. I think it was the cutness of the saying rather than the language – but wouldnt want to put words in his mouth

I think in the context of when do you, as the journalist has to, shift your focus on to developing the next story – publication deadlines and all that – the last word has a certain necessity about it. Doesnt mean the story is dead but perhas the last editorial word.

In that respect you could see the last word as less final and more dynamic – “the last word on this subject someone had to say was yesterday at 12:00″ kind of thing.

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