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		<title>By: Ainda em Torno do &#8220;Efeito Lusa&#8221; [II] &#124; Comunicação Empresarial</title>
		<link>http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2008/04/25/recommending-news/#comment-5197</link>
		<dc:creator>Ainda em Torno do &#8220;Efeito Lusa&#8221; [II] &#124; Comunicação Empresarial</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 17:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] considero relacionado, deixo link ao artigo do Alexandre, tradução do Recommending News, de Wilbert [...] </description>
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		<title>By: Recomendar as notícias &#171; O Lago &#124; The Lake</title>
		<link>http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2008/04/25/recommending-news/#comment-5200</link>
		<dc:creator>Recomendar as notícias &#171; O Lago &#124; The Lake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 21:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] bookmarking, wilber baan                    This post is the portuguese translation of the text Recommending news by Wilbert Baan at the [...] </description>
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		<title>By: links for 2008-04-28 &#171; David Black</title>
		<link>http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2008/04/25/recommending-news/#comment-5199</link>
		<dc:creator>links for 2008-04-28 &#171; David Black</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 02:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Recommending news - Online Journalism Blog &#8220;The website as we know it is breaking apart. Widgets, API’s and feeds take information to other places outside the domain. In a network culture we like to take our information with us. Your mobile phone, desktop, widgets, websites, digital television, (tags: internet newspapersites news journalism widgets api personalisation) [...] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Recommending news &#8211; Online Journalism Blog &#8220;The website as we know it is breaking apart. Widgets, API’s and feeds take information to other places outside the domain. In a network culture we like to take our information with us. Your mobile phone, desktop, widgets, websites, digital television, (tags: internet newspapersites news journalism widgets api personalisation) [...] </p>
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		<title>By: Alex Lockwood</title>
		<link>http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2008/04/25/recommending-news/#comment-5198</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Lockwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 09:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi there. As (former) managing editor for &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.creative-choices.co.uk&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Creative Choices&lt;/a&gt; we had to meet the challenge of building a single site that would be relevant for everyone in, or wanting to get into, the creative industries. That was from learners to leaders, from artists to advertising executives. A bit of a mix, and we met the challenge by designing the interaction so that the user &#039;flavoured&#039; the site, e.g. &quot;I&#039;m a leader in advertising&quot; and the priority content they received was about leadership AND advertising, followed by leadership OR advertising, followed by the rest of the content. So, self-recommendation, but a site with the philosophy of a personalised news and services experience that could extend into the flavouring of one user helping influence the flavouring of another.

I&#039;m pretty sure we were not the first to do this (although we had enough problems to feel like it was the first!). A lot of financial information sites already do this, because of the regulations around who can receive what information based on their status and location. And I think that the new model of hybrid journalism (which I &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.alexlockwood.net/2008/04/26/the-hybrid-newswork/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;write about here&lt;/a&gt; that is theorized by Mark Deuze and others (see the journal &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tandf.co.uk/journals/titles/17512786.asp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Journalism Practice&lt;/a&gt;) is a form of the recommendatory news experience that you&#039;re talking about.

However, talking about this with my journalism students in our &lt;a href=&quot;http://myblogs.sunderland.ac.uk/blogs/mac250/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;social media class&lt;/a&gt; yesterday, they, as students, consumers of news and producers (or &#039;produsers&#039; as Deuze would call them) of their own blogs and magazines (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.themusicmagazine.co.uk&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Music Magazine&lt;/a&gt; for example, and &lt;a href=&quot;http://jambo1988.blogspot.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this Burnley football blog&lt;/a&gt;) were adamant that they wanted to read news that had been edited and selected by professional journalists, by editors, not the masses, not even their networks if their networks are not &#039;newswork&#039; professionals.

So I agree with what you are saying, and believe that Twitter in some way is meeting that demand for recommended news events, and I think there will be many failed attempts at getting the sense of a contextualised and recommended news experience right, before we see how news will evolve online, Good thing of course is that you can fail quickly, and try again.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.alexlockwood.net&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Alex&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there. As (former) managing editor for <a href="http://www.creative-choices.co.uk" rel="nofollow" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.creative-choices.co.uk?referer=');">Creative Choices</a> we had to meet the challenge of building a single site that would be relevant for everyone in, or wanting to get into, the creative industries. That was from learners to leaders, from artists to advertising executives. A bit of a mix, and we met the challenge by designing the interaction so that the user &#8216;flavoured&#8217; the site, e.g. &#8220;I&#8217;m a leader in advertising&#8221; and the priority content they received was about leadership AND advertising, followed by leadership OR advertising, followed by the rest of the content. So, self-recommendation, but a site with the philosophy of a personalised news and services experience that could extend into the flavouring of one user helping influence the flavouring of another.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure we were not the first to do this (although we had enough problems to feel like it was the first!). A lot of financial information sites already do this, because of the regulations around who can receive what information based on their status and location. And I think that the new model of hybrid journalism (which I <a href="http://www.alexlockwood.net/2008/04/26/the-hybrid-newswork/" rel="nofollow" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.alexlockwood.net/2008/04/26/the-hybrid-newswork/?referer=');">write about here</a> that is theorized by Mark Deuze and others (see the journal <a href="http://www.tandf.co.uk/journals/titles/17512786.asp" rel="nofollow" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.tandf.co.uk/journals/titles/17512786.asp?referer=');">Journalism Practice</a>) is a form of the recommendatory news experience that you&#8217;re talking about.</p>
<p>However, talking about this with my journalism students in our <a href="http://myblogs.sunderland.ac.uk/blogs/mac250/" rel="nofollow" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/myblogs.sunderland.ac.uk/blogs/mac250/?referer=');">social media class</a> yesterday, they, as students, consumers of news and producers (or &#8216;produsers&#8217; as Deuze would call them) of their own blogs and magazines (<a href="http://www.themusicmagazine.co.uk" rel="nofollow" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.themusicmagazine.co.uk?referer=');">The Music Magazine</a> for example, and <a href="http://jambo1988.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/jambo1988.blogspot.com/?referer=');">this Burnley football blog</a>) were adamant that they wanted to read news that had been edited and selected by professional journalists, by editors, not the masses, not even their networks if their networks are not &#8216;newswork&#8217; professionals.</p>
<p>So I agree with what you are saying, and believe that Twitter in some way is meeting that demand for recommended news events, and I think there will be many failed attempts at getting the sense of a contextualised and recommended news experience right, before we see how news will evolve online, Good thing of course is that you can fail quickly, and try again.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.alexlockwood.net" rel="nofollow" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.alexlockwood.net?referer=');">Alex</a></p>
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		<title>By: wilbertbaan</title>
		<link>http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2008/04/25/recommending-news/#comment-5195</link>
		<dc:creator>wilbertbaan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 17:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Stig interesting thoughts, I also think we do listen to the advice (recommendations) of our friends (network) in the real world.

I think you hit the right spot about recommendation systems. We like what it does, but most people don&#039;t feel the need to join it or make it better. Most people don&#039;t edit Wikipedia pages or vote or submit items to Digg. They just look at the results.

Recommendations only work when it happens by magic, or automatically. Like how Google changes the index based on what position the links are that users click. Everyone is making Google better, but you don&#039;t have to do anything for it except using it.

I want my news - partly - personalized, but I don&#039;t know if it is worth going through the hassle of creating an account.

@Andy you&#039;re right we should keep it positive. In something else I wrote later this morning I had already updated the sentence.

&quot;The web is fragmenting, or maybe even better the web is everywhere. On your mobile phone, television, widgets, feeds, website, and more.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Stig interesting thoughts, I also think we do listen to the advice (recommendations) of our friends (network) in the real world.</p>
<p>I think you hit the right spot about recommendation systems. We like what it does, but most people don&#8217;t feel the need to join it or make it better. Most people don&#8217;t edit Wikipedia pages or vote or submit items to Digg. They just look at the results.</p>
<p>Recommendations only work when it happens by magic, or automatically. Like how Google changes the index based on what position the links are that users click. Everyone is making Google better, but you don&#8217;t have to do anything for it except using it.</p>
<p>I want my news &#8211; partly &#8211; personalized, but I don&#8217;t know if it is worth going through the hassle of creating an account.</p>
<p>@Andy you&#8217;re right we should keep it positive. In something else I wrote later this morning I had already updated the sentence.</p>
<p>&#8220;The web is fragmenting, or maybe even better the web is everywhere. On your mobile phone, television, widgets, feeds, website, and more.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2008/04/25/recommending-news/#comment-5194</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 16:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The website as we know it is breaking apart.&quot;

Maybe the more positive spin - and the more pro-active way to see this is the website as we know it is spreading its roots.</description>
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<p>Maybe the more positive spin &#8211; and the more pro-active way to see this is the website as we know it is spreading its roots.</p>
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		<title>By: Stig</title>
		<link>http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2008/04/25/recommending-news/#comment-5196</link>
		<dc:creator>Stig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Recommendations on internet is a very interesting topic. Recommendations are coming to us through media in different forms. Either from experts or friends. Web2.0 makes us all experts, and that is a big challenge with recommendations on the web.

I personally love the idea of web recommendations. I was tired to read film experts advices for instance. They didn&#039;t knew what I like! So I am open to find new experts on the net that speak to me. These experts can be both people or systems. Subscribing (RSS feeds) to news and blogs of my own interest is changing how I update myself on news on the web. Other system like digg and deli.cio.us has not been of my interest so far, and dont think they will. They are more the public opinion aren&#039;t they?

Like in the real world it all comes down to find right persons/systems to listen to. I have a feeling that we rely too much on our close friends and family. Many read the news papers and watch TV programs and movies as their friends recommend. Internet can give you new friends that perhaps match better and more worth to listen to.

I don&#039;t see why news should be different from other recommendations, so yes. I would love to have &#039;friends&#039; that help me to find interesting news. As long I respect them and feel I can trust them, they can be a god filter for me. That is what we need in the information age isn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recommendations on internet is a very interesting topic. Recommendations are coming to us through media in different forms. Either from experts or friends. Web2.0 makes us all experts, and that is a big challenge with recommendations on the web.</p>
<p>I personally love the idea of web recommendations. I was tired to read film experts advices for instance. They didn&#8217;t knew what I like! So I am open to find new experts on the net that speak to me. These experts can be both people or systems. Subscribing (RSS feeds) to news and blogs of my own interest is changing how I update myself on news on the web. Other system like digg and deli.cio.us has not been of my interest so far, and dont think they will. They are more the public opinion aren&#8217;t they?</p>
<p>Like in the real world it all comes down to find right persons/systems to listen to. I have a feeling that we rely too much on our close friends and family. Many read the news papers and watch TV programs and movies as their friends recommend. Internet can give you new friends that perhaps match better and more worth to listen to.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see why news should be different from other recommendations, so yes. I would love to have &#8216;friends&#8217; that help me to find interesting news. As long I respect them and feel I can trust them, they can be a god filter for me. That is what we need in the information age isn&#8217;t it?</p>
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