Comments on: What is original about Charlie Beckett’s ‘conceptual model of networked journalism’?

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By: Charlie Beckett

Charlie Beckett — Tue, 27 May 2008 10:41:11 +0000

Paul,
Congratulations on the new baby.
I am delighted that we’ve sorted this out.
cheers
Charlie

By: paulbradshaw

paulbradshaw — Tue, 27 May 2008 10:14:00 +0000

Thanks Charlie – I’ve now updated the post. Apologies for the delay (have been offline with a new baby). Happy to get back to the real issues.

By: Charlie Beckett

Charlie Beckett — Fri, 23 May 2008 18:50:45 +0000

Alexandre,
Thanks for your appreciation of the book and yes, you are right, the problem of the citation of the diagram was an ‘editorial flaw’. and entirely my fault. I gave a big obvious credit to Paul and his website in the text. I emailed him while I was writing the book to say what I was going to do. My intention was clearly to give him the credit, it’s just that I didn’t label the diagram properly. It was a late addition and I screwed up on the footnote. I have subsequently written to Paul to apologise for not giving him the proper footnote credit to the diagram. I pointed out very clearly in the book and in my letter to Paul that I am not an academic and don’t claim to be one. I don’t claim to be ‘original ‘ anywhere in the book. (I am a journalist after all…) I apologised to Paul for the lack of care in the citation and promised to make amends.
It is a shame that Paul hasn’t acknowledged or responded to my apologies.
If you go to my blog (www.charliebeckett.org) and search ‘Paul Bradshaw’ you will see many laudatory references to Paul’s work with full links and ample credits. The idea that I am trying to deny the debt is laughable. I don’t think I have any great disagreement with Paul around the issues so I regret that he is so furious about this academic (but important) technical issue.
Let’s get back to the real issue which is the future of journalism.
cheers
Charlie

By: Alexandre Gamela

Alexandre Gamela — Thu, 22 May 2008 19:59:57 +0000

Yeah, i agree with you, i’m halfway through the book and despite all the great things in there that are making me believe that it will turn into a reference for the future, i noticed that bit. The copy i have is from the Harvard site, without the footnotes and the pictures (i’m buying the book anyway) but when i got to that model part i noticed there was any type of mention to your work, besides the reference in the previous page. This might sound as an academic quarrel but it’s very importante specially in these times where someone’s idea can become everyone’s idea; it’s most likely, being totally candid about it ,an editorial flaw. Beckett’s book is awesome because it sums up the stream of conscience around Online Journalism, allied to a admirable perspective, and i agree with lots of his ideas. It would give a fantastic school book for Journalism freshmen, and is taking the understanding of the social part and function of the business into another new level. But yes, i noticed credit was due, and even here where copyright and authorship is disrespected easily in almost every university, the use of those specific pages would have a better footnote, even if handwritten on photocopies. It’s a totally understandable complain, in academic grounds, and over copyright practice.
Have you talked with him?

PS: i wrote a post a few days before that described part of that same process in a similar way, and i admit that most of my ideas come from minds like Paul Bradshaw, Jeff Jarvis, Ryan Sholin, Mindy McAdams, and many others that became my unexpected ,for a lack of a better word, teachers. I credit these people referencing their work the most and the best i can. And everytime i have one idea i consider my own i know it truly never is. So i’d like to thank you all, and hope that the mark you’ll leave in this business and in the generations you’ll teach becomes indelible.