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		<title>By: Don&#8217;t pay for newspapers? You&#8217;re the news murderer! &#171; Inky Binary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don&#8217;t pay for newspapers? You&#8217;re the news murderer! &#171; Inky Binary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] What will happen to news publishers? A guess based on what&#8217;s happening right now (onlinejournalismblog.com)   Possibly related posts: (automatically generated)No TitleFrance bails out the newspaper industryFinancial Times Whacking 80Hearst threatens to close Post-Intelligencer paper [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] What will happen to news publishers? A guess based on what&#8217;s happening right now (onlinejournalismblog.com)   Possibly related posts: (automatically generated)No TitleFrance bails out the newspaper industryFinancial Times Whacking 80Hearst threatens to close Post-Intelligencer paper [...]</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, when have you ever followed an online ad?  I don&#039;t think I have EVER really even noticed one, let alone followed one on the internet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, when have you ever followed an online ad?  I don&#8217;t think I have EVER really even noticed one, let alone followed one on the internet.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where is the money going to come in to fund mass, deep and thorough reporting?  Ad revenue?  Online ad revenue generates nowhere near the amount that print ads once did.  

So, as many bloggers seem to propose, dismantle the traditional media by way of more democratic and community based blogging?  Fine - but where is the money going to come in to send a hundred reporters to do a good job in Iraq?  Who’s going to pay the salary of an intensive feature writer?  

I believe we are in a transition period where mass media is in decline only to be replaced by comment, opinion, and churnalism.  The only way traditional big bucks reporting will regain glory is when online ads generate the same income as print ads.  Until that time journalism will suffer, and it will be a case of traditional media having to cut staff and holding on for dear life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where is the money going to come in to fund mass, deep and thorough reporting?  Ad revenue?  Online ad revenue generates nowhere near the amount that print ads once did.  </p>
<p>So, as many bloggers seem to propose, dismantle the traditional media by way of more democratic and community based blogging?  Fine &#8211; but where is the money going to come in to send a hundred reporters to do a good job in Iraq?  Who’s going to pay the salary of an intensive feature writer?  </p>
<p>I believe we are in a transition period where mass media is in decline only to be replaced by comment, opinion, and churnalism.  The only way traditional big bucks reporting will regain glory is when online ads generate the same income as print ads.  Until that time journalism will suffer, and it will be a case of traditional media having to cut staff and holding on for dear life.</p>
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		<title>By: francesca matera</title>
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		<dc:creator>francesca matera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:47:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I had in mind was some sort of non professional Twitter-style journos. It&#039;s true anyone can publish, but that has its risks. Self-made non professionals turned reporters can publish what they like and their news can hardly be verified, and persecuted. This is what traditional news guarantees.
Please correct me if I&#039;m wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I had in mind was some sort of non professional Twitter-style journos. It&#8217;s true anyone can publish, but that has its risks. Self-made non professionals turned reporters can publish what they like and their news can hardly be verified, and persecuted. This is what traditional news guarantees.<br />
Please correct me if I&#8217;m wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Andraz Tori</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andraz Tori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Traditional news guaranteeing what? I am seing way too many stories from The Onion as regular articles in local press.

Major media will persist, just heap of specialized ones will have to move to the web, and daily newspapers will have reduced circulation due to moving to the web.

Andraz Tori, Zemanta</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Traditional news guaranteeing what? I am seing way too many stories from The Onion as regular articles in local press.</p>
<p>Major media will persist, just heap of specialized ones will have to move to the web, and daily newspapers will have reduced circulation due to moving to the web.</p>
<p>Andraz Tori, Zemanta</p>
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		<title>By: francesca matera</title>
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		<dc:creator>francesca matera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:20:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, but only partly. What will happen to credibility and balance? Networks, blogs anf UGC are no doubt the future. However, what would stop hot-heads from making up events and circulating über-opinionated rubbish? Traditional news agencies and public (and in most cases commercial) broadcasters are there to guarantee such values are applied. 

Freelancers are good, but they are mercenaries! I think there is still a time and a place for good, old licence-funded journalism when it supports originality and innovation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, but only partly. What will happen to credibility and balance? Networks, blogs anf UGC are no doubt the future. However, what would stop hot-heads from making up events and circulating über-opinionated rubbish? Traditional news agencies and public (and in most cases commercial) broadcasters are there to guarantee such values are applied. </p>
<p>Freelancers are good, but they are mercenaries! I think there is still a time and a place for good, old licence-funded journalism when it supports originality and innovation.</p>
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		<title>By: What will happen to news publishers? A guess based on what&#8217;s happening right now on hypernarrative.com, a weblog by Wilbert Baan about Art, Media and Technology</title>
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		<dc:creator>What will happen to news publishers? A guess based on what&#8217;s happening right now on hypernarrative.com, a weblog by Wilbert Baan about Art, Media and Technology</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 19:38:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Former MSM reporter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Former MSM reporter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 12:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The bottom line is that paper is what made the system work. Paper was THE medium for news, entertainment, sports and most importanly, advertising. We in the newspaper industry had a virtual monopoly on those things and we used that monopoly to pay for reporters, editors, photographers, transportation and office space.

Twenty years ago, if somebody wanted to know what was going on at City Hall, he or she had to rely upon a paid journalist who sat through boring meetings and could easily pick up the phone and call the city manager, council members and the mayor to catch up on the latest municipal news.

Today, anyone can go on maplevillecitygovernment.com and get agendas, minutes and such and find out as much as most people care to know about that stuff. And yes, there might even be a Mapleville gadfly running a blog with a different point of view. Getting an unvarnished and largely dispassionate accounting of City Hall, however, will be a thing of the past once the Mapleville Courier goes into Chapter 7 and the presses are sold for scrap.

All that moneymaking stuff on the Net, like social networking, entertainment news and sports can go on making money without ever having to worry about what&#039;s going on at city hall. No one will ever want that news badly enough to pay some reporter or videographer&#039;s salary to Maplevillecourier.com.

I think there is some hope that a BBC-type publicly funded entity could be created that could keep track of national and international news, perhaps with some nod to regional coverage as well. The BBC is funded by the British government with a charter that allows no government interference.

Even if that dream were realized, there would still be a major gap on the local level. Local politicians, such as Los Angeles County supervisors, who each represent 2 million constituents, will be left to operated as clandestinely as they wish. As one of their aides told the LA Times, it will be like the Cheshire Cat: &quot;All you&#039;ll be able to see is the smile.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The bottom line is that paper is what made the system work. Paper was THE medium for news, entertainment, sports and most importanly, advertising. We in the newspaper industry had a virtual monopoly on those things and we used that monopoly to pay for reporters, editors, photographers, transportation and office space.</p>
<p>Twenty years ago, if somebody wanted to know what was going on at City Hall, he or she had to rely upon a paid journalist who sat through boring meetings and could easily pick up the phone and call the city manager, council members and the mayor to catch up on the latest municipal news.</p>
<p>Today, anyone can go on maplevillecitygovernment.com and get agendas, minutes and such and find out as much as most people care to know about that stuff. And yes, there might even be a Mapleville gadfly running a blog with a different point of view. Getting an unvarnished and largely dispassionate accounting of City Hall, however, will be a thing of the past once the Mapleville Courier goes into Chapter 7 and the presses are sold for scrap.</p>
<p>All that moneymaking stuff on the Net, like social networking, entertainment news and sports can go on making money without ever having to worry about what&#8217;s going on at city hall. No one will ever want that news badly enough to pay some reporter or videographer&#8217;s salary to Maplevillecourier.com.</p>
<p>I think there is some hope that a BBC-type publicly funded entity could be created that could keep track of national and international news, perhaps with some nod to regional coverage as well. The BBC is funded by the British government with a charter that allows no government interference.</p>
<p>Even if that dream were realized, there would still be a major gap on the local level. Local politicians, such as Los Angeles County supervisors, who each represent 2 million constituents, will be left to operated as clandestinely as they wish. As one of their aides told the LA Times, it will be like the Cheshire Cat: &#8220;All you&#8217;ll be able to see is the smile.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Ferro-Thomsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin Ferro-Thomsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 16:59:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you got it right. The new news agencies should be created in the spirit of group blogs attracting attention and making money from that. The tech sector clearly demonstrated how to do that, and as readers take their business online more and more, the example can be copied outside the tech sector (happening already).

I like the idea of the freelancer and/or group blog climbing their way to authority. I&#039;ve seen equally poor journalists and bloggers, and in the attention economy we wouldn&#039;t even bother with that old discussion. 

Being as good as your word is what it&#039;s all about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you got it right. The new news agencies should be created in the spirit of group blogs attracting attention and making money from that. The tech sector clearly demonstrated how to do that, and as readers take their business online more and more, the example can be copied outside the tech sector (happening already).</p>
<p>I like the idea of the freelancer and/or group blog climbing their way to authority. I&#8217;ve seen equally poor journalists and bloggers, and in the attention economy we wouldn&#8217;t even bother with that old discussion. </p>
<p>Being as good as your word is what it&#8217;s all about.</p>
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		<title>By: Andraz Tori</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andraz Tori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 16:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting,

web is making a newspapers&#039; market smaller by simply fulfilling (part of) the same role cheaper. First thing newspapers need to do is stop complaining and start shrinking.

However I&#039;d still think there are some benefits of offering journalists long term protection (aka job) in order for them to be independent enough to really produce cutting edge stuff. Naturally there will be smaller number of those than they are today as most will be freelancers.

Actually greatest on-line competition to newspapers are web-branches of TV stations since they are essentially going after the same market - newspapers dumb down stories for internet, and web-branches of TV houses do a bit more in-depth reporting. It is going to be interesting to see who wins that battle.

bye
Andraz Tori, Zemanta</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting,</p>
<p>web is making a newspapers&#8217; market smaller by simply fulfilling (part of) the same role cheaper. First thing newspapers need to do is stop complaining and start shrinking.</p>
<p>However I&#8217;d still think there are some benefits of offering journalists long term protection (aka job) in order for them to be independent enough to really produce cutting edge stuff. Naturally there will be smaller number of those than they are today as most will be freelancers.</p>
<p>Actually greatest on-line competition to newspapers are web-branches of TV stations since they are essentially going after the same market &#8211; newspapers dumb down stories for internet, and web-branches of TV houses do a bit more in-depth reporting. It is going to be interesting to see who wins that battle.</p>
<p>bye<br />
Andraz Tori, Zemanta</p>
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