Comments on: An iTunes model for news? More difficult than you think. http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2009/01/14/an-itunes-model-for-news-more-difficult-than-you-think/ A conversation. Sat, 11 Feb 2012 08:45:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Exie Sporn http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2009/01/14/an-itunes-model-for-news-more-difficult-than-you-think/#comment-8306 Exie Sporn Tue, 14 Dec 2010 16:10:12 +0000 http://onlinejournalismblog.com/?p=1981#comment-8306 its great to see somone discussing this concern occasionally it is so challenging to discover a honest opinion and i appreciate your honesty on this issue i just wish you had a newsletter i could subscribe to as i would be extremely interested in readind your posts and debating on futher issues you may desire to discuss, stay blessed. its great to see somone discussing this concern occasionally it is so challenging to discover a honest opinion and i appreciate your honesty on this issue i just wish you had a newsletter i could subscribe to as i would be extremely interested in readind your posts and debating on futher issues you may desire to discuss, stay blessed.

]]> By: iTunes models for news? What publishers can learn from mflow « Wannapress Blog http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2009/01/14/an-itunes-model-for-news-more-difficult-than-you-think/#comment-8305 iTunes models for news? What publishers can learn from mflow « Wannapress Blog Sat, 10 Apr 2010 18:33:50 +0000 http://onlinejournalismblog.com/?p=1981#comment-8305 [...] An iTunes model for news may be a phantom, but publishers wanting to make money from content online can still learn from the experiences of the music sector. The latest launch in this area is the music sharing-and-buying startup mflow – a fantastic model which I think can offer a lot of ideas to publishers. Here’s how it works: [...] [...] An iTunes model for news may be a phantom, but publishers wanting to make money from content online can still learn from the experiences of the music sector. The latest launch in this area is the music sharing-and-buying startup mflow – a fantastic model which I think can offer a lot of ideas to publishers. Here’s how it works: [...]

]]> By: iTunes models for news? What publishers can learn from mflow | Online Journalism Blog http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2009/01/14/an-itunes-model-for-news-more-difficult-than-you-think/#comment-8304 iTunes models for news? What publishers can learn from mflow | Online Journalism Blog Wed, 07 Apr 2010 07:58:17 +0000 http://onlinejournalismblog.com/?p=1981#comment-8304 [...] An iTunes model for news may be a phantom, but publishers wanting to make money from content online can still learn from the experiences of the music sector. The latest launch in this area is the music sharing-and-buying startup mflow – a fantastic model which I think can offer a lot of ideas to publishers. Here’s how it works: [...] [...] An iTunes model for news may be a phantom, but publishers wanting to make money from content online can still learn from the experiences of the music sector. The latest launch in this area is the music sharing-and-buying startup mflow – a fantastic model which I think can offer a lot of ideas to publishers. Here’s how it works: [...]

]]> By: Here comes the iTunes of news? News Corp, Time Inc et al plan ’store’ http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2009/01/14/an-itunes-model-for-news-more-difficult-than-you-think/#comment-8303 Here comes the iTunes of news? News Corp, Time Inc et al plan ’store’ Sat, 05 Dec 2009 06:22:23 +0000 http://onlinejournalismblog.com/?p=1981#comment-8303 [...] written before on why such an ‘iTunes model’ isn’t as easy a route as it may appea..., but it is a step up from the basic paywall model. If they can make it convenient enough or include [...] [...] written before on why such an ‘iTunes model’ isn’t as easy a route as it may appea…, but it is a step up from the basic paywall model. If they can make it convenient enough or include [...]

]]> By: War is coming – and AP mustn’t be allowed to win | Online Journalism Blog http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2009/01/14/an-itunes-model-for-news-more-difficult-than-you-think/#comment-8302 War is coming – and AP mustn’t be allowed to win | Online Journalism Blog Tue, 07 Apr 2009 19:47:26 +0000 http://onlinejournalismblog.com/?p=1981#comment-8302 [...] They have scale, which means they are one of the few organisations who could be the Amazon or iTunes of news online - if they realise that both those organisations succeeded by creating value around content - not by [...] [...] They have scale, which means they are one of the few organisations who could be the Amazon or iTunes of news online – if they realise that both those organisations succeeded by creating value around content – not by [...]

]]> By: paulbradshaw http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2009/01/14/an-itunes-model-for-news-more-difficult-than-you-think/#comment-8301 paulbradshaw Wed, 11 Feb 2009 09:07:32 +0000 http://onlinejournalismblog.com/?p=1981#comment-8301 I think the key to financially supporting news online is to forget about advertising against content. Unless you have users in the billions like Google, Facebook etc. then the numbers won't add up (some international brands like NYT, Guardian, etc. may manage it, but they will be a minority) Then look at the models that are working online: freemium; selling services and tools rather than content. How can you make your information a service or the basis for a tool? I'm exploring some of these models at the moment with a news project that I hope to launch soon. If it fails, fine, but tinkering with the old models is not going to do it. We have to reinvent this thing. I think the key to financially supporting news online is to forget about advertising against content. Unless you have users in the billions like Google, Facebook etc. then the numbers won’t add up (some international brands like NYT, Guardian, etc. may manage it, but they will be a minority)

Then look at the models that are working online: freemium; selling services and tools rather than content. How can you make your information a service or the basis for a tool?

I’m exploring some of these models at the moment with a news project that I hope to launch soon. If it fails, fine, but tinkering with the old models is not going to do it. We have to reinvent this thing.

]]> By: Mark Joyella http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2009/01/14/an-itunes-model-for-news-more-difficult-than-you-think/#comment-8300 Mark Joyella Wed, 11 Feb 2009 04:48:56 +0000 http://onlinejournalismblog.com/?p=1981#comment-8300 Paul, I'm sorry I didn't check out the full length post until now. You make an excellent argument against an iTunes model for news, especially the news content that, as you point out, is free, and often, lousy. Why pay for that? Solving this financial model question is critical, though, as today's WSJ article so clearly points out with regard to local television: the old model is dying--and quickly. Something new's gotta come along, and if it keeps television stations doing news as we've known it, great. If it's something else, I'd like to know what it is... at least a short while before everyone else does, thanks. Great writing. I hope you'll keep posting on my blog! Mark Paul,

I’m sorry I didn’t check out the full length post until now. You make an excellent argument against an iTunes model for news, especially the news content that, as you point out, is free, and often, lousy. Why pay for that?

Solving this financial model question is critical, though, as today’s WSJ article so clearly points out with regard to local television: the old model is dying–and quickly. Something new’s gotta come along, and if it keeps television stations doing news as we’ve known it, great. If it’s something else, I’d like to know what it is… at least a short while before everyone else does, thanks.

Great writing. I hope you’ll keep posting on my blog!

Mark

]]> By: I’ll have a mag app to go, please « BusinessMedia.co.uk http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2009/01/14/an-itunes-model-for-news-more-difficult-than-you-think/#comment-8299 I’ll have a mag app to go, please « BusinessMedia.co.uk Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:20:51 +0000 http://onlinejournalismblog.com/?p=1981#comment-8299 [...] Times “Let’s invent an iTunes for News.” But commentators such as Paul Bradshaw have questioned it because once we consume news, it’s old, therefore we’d be hesitant to pay for a [...] [...] Times “Let’s invent an iTunes for News.” But commentators such as Paul Bradshaw have questioned it because once we consume news, it’s old, therefore we’d be hesitant to pay for a [...]

]]> By: Carnival of journalism: How do you financially support journalism online? | Online Journalism Blog http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2009/01/14/an-itunes-model-for-news-more-difficult-than-you-think/#comment-8298 Carnival of journalism: How do you financially support journalism online? | Online Journalism Blog Fri, 16 Jan 2009 09:29:26 +0000 http://onlinejournalismblog.com/?p=1981#comment-8298 [...] round, gather round for this month’s Carnival of Journalism, which addresses the timely question of ‘How do you financially support journalism online?’. I’ll be updating this [...] [...] round, gather round for this month’s Carnival of Journalism, which addresses the timely question of ‘How do you financially support journalism online?’. I’ll be updating this [...]

]]> By: Anton http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2009/01/14/an-itunes-model-for-news-more-difficult-than-you-think/#comment-8297 Anton Wed, 14 Jan 2009 22:19:29 +0000 http://onlinejournalismblog.com/?p=1981#comment-8297 You may want to check out www.offlinereading.com, a website where you can find 'podcasts' for free (PDF) newspapers that can be found on the Internet. With offlinreading.com you can subscribe to newspaper podcasts and have these automatically delivered to your computer (or e-reader). You may want to check out http://www.offlinereading.com, a website where you can find ‘podcasts’ for free (PDF) newspapers that can be found on the Internet. With offlinreading.com you can subscribe to newspaper podcasts and have these automatically delivered to your computer (or e-reader).

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