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		<title>By: Paul Bradshaw</title>
		<link>http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2009/03/24/are-uk-newspapers-and-journalists-selling-links/#comment-9568</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Bradshaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Apr 2011 13:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting examples - the Mirror one isn&#039;t working due to a looping redirect and the Express one is presumably a redirect too, so although it retains the URL it probably doesn&#039;t retain the Google Pagerank?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting examples &#8211; the Mirror one isn&#8217;t working due to a looping redirect and the Express one is presumably a redirect too, so although it retains the URL it probably doesn&#8217;t retain the Google Pagerank?</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2009/03/24/are-uk-newspapers-and-journalists-selling-links/#comment-9567</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Apr 2011 12:28:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Both the Mirror and Express are selling links.

Look at this pages about Wheelchairs:

http://mobility.mirror.co.uk/
http://mobilitycompare.express.co.uk/

Look at the bottom left of the page. There are links to other mobility resource, but every other link, links to promocodes.co.uk - a voucher code site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both the Mirror and Express are selling links.</p>
<p>Look at this pages about Wheelchairs:</p>
<p><a href="http://mobility.mirror.co.uk/" rel="nofollow" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/mobility.mirror.co.uk/?referer=');">http://mobility.mirror.co.uk/</a><br />
<a href="http://mobilitycompare.express.co.uk/" rel="nofollow" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/mobilitycompare.express.co.uk/?referer=');">http://mobilitycompare.express.co.uk/</a></p>
<p>Look at the bottom left of the page. There are links to other mobility resource, but every other link, links to promocodes.co.uk &#8211; a voucher code site.</p>
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		<title>By: Domainer</title>
		<link>http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2009/03/24/are-uk-newspapers-and-journalists-selling-links/#comment-9566</link>
		<dc:creator>Domainer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 19:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just received my monthly copy of GQ magazine and realised the amount of editorial advertising...it was a complete joke.  A whole article on the new omega watch...oh and they are a large sponsor.  It happens so much in print media that it was bound to creep into blogs and websites.  The web is so full of junk sites and pages that some quality and standards need kept.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just received my monthly copy of GQ magazine and realised the amount of editorial advertising&#8230;it was a complete joke.  A whole article on the new omega watch&#8230;oh and they are a large sponsor.  It happens so much in print media that it was bound to creep into blogs and websites.  The web is so full of junk sites and pages that some quality and standards need kept.</p>
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		<title>By: Alicia Navarro</title>
		<link>http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2009/03/24/are-uk-newspapers-and-journalists-selling-links/#comment-9565</link>
		<dc:creator>Alicia Navarro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:27:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really interesting debate. I wanted to add a few thoughts, although to disclose, I run Skimlinks which is a service that does help publishers earn revenues from affiliate marketing in the way described here and with clients like the ones discussed here.

1. Affiliate marketing is not an ad or a paid link. Ads and paid links are driven by the advertiser, and are paid for by default. Affiliate links are decided upon and completely driven by the publisher, and are only paid if there is a sale. This is an important distinction.

2. Off-line publishing has always done this: makeup and fashion retailers send samples to journalists, which gives them ideas on what to write about. When a magazine has an article on the top 10 mascaras, it is subjective, and likely driven by who they have good relationships with. This is normal, and doesn&#039;t mean the editorial content is not well-written, interesting, or useful.

3. In my experience of talking to scores of publishers really working hard to stay afloat, I can personally vouch that all these publshers still really care about their content and integrity. We help them define processes that retain their editorial integrity, but still allow them to create a reveue stream that isn&#039;t intrusive to their users.

4. The OFT guidelines are about paid ads by advertisers - and certainly if advice is being made about commercially sensitive items like mortgages and loans, more obvious disclosure is essential. Similarly, if the content is news like the stocks page or breaking news, the distinction between ads and editorial is essential too. But fun editorial on fashion, homewares, gadgets etc, with affiliate links added after the editors have written their pieces independently, is not in breach.

5. Although there has been some people saying they don&#039;t like this approach, it doesn&#039;t necessarliy mean the general public don&#039;t trust them. The majority of people know that these sites need to monetise if they want to continue to pay for quality writers and give their content for free, and if it means less intrusive ads, then why shouldn&#039;t publishers be given a small commission for sales they help generate on other sites as a result of them including a link to the merchant on their site?

6. Agree on disclosure - we strongly encourage our publishers to disclose how they use us to monetise on our site.

Please feel free to contact us if you have further questions. We care deeply about behaving ethically, and this is a new area where we are drawing up the rules as we go, but editorial integrity and user-experience are key for us. Thank you for reading my thoughts.
Alicia Navarro
CEO - Skimlinks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really interesting debate. I wanted to add a few thoughts, although to disclose, I run Skimlinks which is a service that does help publishers earn revenues from affiliate marketing in the way described here and with clients like the ones discussed here.</p>
<p>1. Affiliate marketing is not an ad or a paid link. Ads and paid links are driven by the advertiser, and are paid for by default. Affiliate links are decided upon and completely driven by the publisher, and are only paid if there is a sale. This is an important distinction.</p>
<p>2. Off-line publishing has always done this: makeup and fashion retailers send samples to journalists, which gives them ideas on what to write about. When a magazine has an article on the top 10 mascaras, it is subjective, and likely driven by who they have good relationships with. This is normal, and doesn&#8217;t mean the editorial content is not well-written, interesting, or useful.</p>
<p>3. In my experience of talking to scores of publishers really working hard to stay afloat, I can personally vouch that all these publshers still really care about their content and integrity. We help them define processes that retain their editorial integrity, but still allow them to create a reveue stream that isn&#8217;t intrusive to their users.</p>
<p>4. The OFT guidelines are about paid ads by advertisers &#8211; and certainly if advice is being made about commercially sensitive items like mortgages and loans, more obvious disclosure is essential. Similarly, if the content is news like the stocks page or breaking news, the distinction between ads and editorial is essential too. But fun editorial on fashion, homewares, gadgets etc, with affiliate links added after the editors have written their pieces independently, is not in breach.</p>
<p>5. Although there has been some people saying they don&#8217;t like this approach, it doesn&#8217;t necessarliy mean the general public don&#8217;t trust them. The majority of people know that these sites need to monetise if they want to continue to pay for quality writers and give their content for free, and if it means less intrusive ads, then why shouldn&#8217;t publishers be given a small commission for sales they help generate on other sites as a result of them including a link to the merchant on their site?</p>
<p>6. Agree on disclosure &#8211; we strongly encourage our publishers to disclose how they use us to monetise on our site.</p>
<p>Please feel free to contact us if you have further questions. We care deeply about behaving ethically, and this is a new area where we are drawing up the rules as we go, but editorial integrity and user-experience are key for us. Thank you for reading my thoughts.<br />
Alicia Navarro<br />
CEO &#8211; Skimlinks</p>
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		<title>By: Domainer</title>
		<link>http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2009/03/24/are-uk-newspapers-and-journalists-selling-links/#comment-9564</link>
		<dc:creator>Domainer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 19:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have often wondered and suspected this.  Also with big websites like Mashable, but it must be hard to resist offers.  If i offered you 1k for a link on your homepage, would you take it??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have often wondered and suspected this.  Also with big websites like Mashable, but it must be hard to resist offers.  If i offered you 1k for a link on your homepage, would you take it??</p>
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		<title>By: Paid links compromising online journalism &#171; Patrick&#8217;s Online Journalism Blog</title>
		<link>http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2009/03/24/are-uk-newspapers-and-journalists-selling-links/#comment-9563</link>
		<dc:creator>Paid links compromising online journalism &#171; Patrick&#8217;s Online Journalism Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 22:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and organisations isn&#8217;t part of the manifesto. The Telegraph Media Group did, however, respond to Naylor&#8217;s claims: “The articles you have highlighted do contain some affiliate links. [...] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and organisations isn&#8217;t part of the manifesto. The Telegraph Media Group did, however, respond to Naylor&#8217;s claims: “The articles you have highlighted do contain some affiliate links. [...] </p>
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		<title>By: jasond</title>
		<link>http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2009/03/24/are-uk-newspapers-and-journalists-selling-links/#comment-9562</link>
		<dc:creator>jasond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 08:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are affiliate links the same as the traditional journalist/advertiser relationship as the Telegraph&#039;s PR claims?

For a start, advertising and editorial have always been distinct and readers have understood the difference. Under OFT regulations there&#039;s a legal difference too. Most readers clicking on the Telegraph&#039;s links will not even know the link is an advert. By monetising its editorial with these undisclosed commercial links I think that the Telegraph is selling its crown jewels in a way that has never been done before. I&#039;d be surprised if its legal department did not insist on disclosure.

To explain, the Telegraph is not paid to insert a link as it would be paid to insert an advert. If its editorial says a product is rubbish don&#039;t buy it, readers are not likely to click on the link and the Telegraph earns nothing. If it raves about a product, readers are more likely to click through and purchase and the Telegraph increases its revenue from the link. This is quite different to traditional display advertising that has a fixed price irrespective of what the editorial says.

moneysavingexpert Martin Lewis has a free to use journalistic research website funded by affiliate links and he claims it is ad free. He disputes altogether the idea that affiliate links are even ads.

I&#039;m not sure the Telegraph has fully understood the consequences of its affiliate links. Display advertising online is in terminal decline not solely because of the recession but because it is much more difficult to sell display ads in the confines of a computer screen once advertisers know they can buy a well positioned disguised link in editorial and pay for it on a performance basis. From an editorial standpoint, does it weaken the Telegraph&#039;s ability to criticise members of the House of Lords for commercial conflicts of interest when its journalists arguably have a commercial conflict of interest, or to publish investigative journalism like bad practice in industries like pharmaceuticals and defence that companies will not want to buy links in?

From the comments in David Naylor&#039;s post, the biggest concern for the Telegraph should be that the public seems not to trust a newspaper funding editorial from commission. Comments above from journalists who are paid by affiliate links are more positive but are they ignoring the fact that once readers don&#039;t trust you they are a click away, a Google search away from finding other sources of information on the internet that, rightly or wrongly, they trust more?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are affiliate links the same as the traditional journalist/advertiser relationship as the Telegraph&#8217;s PR claims?</p>
<p>For a start, advertising and editorial have always been distinct and readers have understood the difference. Under OFT regulations there&#8217;s a legal difference too. Most readers clicking on the Telegraph&#8217;s links will not even know the link is an advert. By monetising its editorial with these undisclosed commercial links I think that the Telegraph is selling its crown jewels in a way that has never been done before. I&#8217;d be surprised if its legal department did not insist on disclosure.</p>
<p>To explain, the Telegraph is not paid to insert a link as it would be paid to insert an advert. If its editorial says a product is rubbish don&#8217;t buy it, readers are not likely to click on the link and the Telegraph earns nothing. If it raves about a product, readers are more likely to click through and purchase and the Telegraph increases its revenue from the link. This is quite different to traditional display advertising that has a fixed price irrespective of what the editorial says.</p>
<p>moneysavingexpert Martin Lewis has a free to use journalistic research website funded by affiliate links and he claims it is ad free. He disputes altogether the idea that affiliate links are even ads.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure the Telegraph has fully understood the consequences of its affiliate links. Display advertising online is in terminal decline not solely because of the recession but because it is much more difficult to sell display ads in the confines of a computer screen once advertisers know they can buy a well positioned disguised link in editorial and pay for it on a performance basis. From an editorial standpoint, does it weaken the Telegraph&#8217;s ability to criticise members of the House of Lords for commercial conflicts of interest when its journalists arguably have a commercial conflict of interest, or to publish investigative journalism like bad practice in industries like pharmaceuticals and defence that companies will not want to buy links in?</p>
<p>From the comments in David Naylor&#8217;s post, the biggest concern for the Telegraph should be that the public seems not to trust a newspaper funding editorial from commission. Comments above from journalists who are paid by affiliate links are more positive but are they ignoring the fact that once readers don&#8217;t trust you they are a click away, a Google search away from finding other sources of information on the internet that, rightly or wrongly, they trust more?</p>
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		<title>By: Should readers be told about paid-for links on newspaper sites? &#124; The Wire &#124; Press Gazette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Should readers be told about paid-for links on newspaper sites? &#124; The Wire &#124; Press Gazette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 16:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a statement issued to Paul Bradshaw&#8217;s Online Journalism Blog last night, a Telegraph Media Group spokeswoman said the practice was &#8220;an accepted means by which online [...] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a statement issued to Paul Bradshaw&#8217;s Online Journalism Blog last night, a Telegraph Media Group spokeswoman said the practice was &#8220;an accepted means by which online [...] </p>
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		<title>By: James Rudd</title>
		<link>http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2009/03/24/are-uk-newspapers-and-journalists-selling-links/#comment-9560</link>
		<dc:creator>James Rudd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 21:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say that in my opinion this is perfectly acceptable and indeed makes sense.

Newspapers, particularly regional ones are not going to survive unless they up their game, the commercial insert of links is not that far removed from subbing. I doubt that the press will go for Churnolist route (publishing press releases). But adding URLs makes good sense and is probably the way forward - I do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say that in my opinion this is perfectly acceptable and indeed makes sense.</p>
<p>Newspapers, particularly regional ones are not going to survive unless they up their game, the commercial insert of links is not that far removed from subbing. I doubt that the press will go for Churnolist route (publishing press releases). But adding URLs makes good sense and is probably the way forward &#8211; I do it.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Thornton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Thornton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d definitely disagree with selling paid links from newspapers, but think that affiliate links are fine, as long as there is clear disclosure somewhere on the site about the fact.

In theory, it should be possible to run an affiliate service for newspaper links without it consciously affecting the links used in stories, but whether or not it happens in practice is probably something that needs some analysis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d definitely disagree with selling paid links from newspapers, but think that affiliate links are fine, as long as there is clear disclosure somewhere on the site about the fact.</p>
<p>In theory, it should be possible to run an affiliate service for newspaper links without it consciously affecting the links used in stories, but whether or not it happens in practice is probably something that needs some analysis.</p>
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