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		<title>By: &#160; Do Newspapers Count Online Readers Fairly?&#160;&#8212;&#160;contentious.com</title>
		<link>http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2009/04/14/why-its-dangerous-to-compare-print-figures-to-website-stats/#comment-9683</link>
		<dc:creator>&#160; Do Newspapers Count Online Readers Fairly?&#160;&#8212;&#160;contentious.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 18:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] service from fellow Tidbits contributor Paul Bradshaw&#8217;s Online Journalism Blog, which republished Thornton&#8217;s article. A link from that repost led me to Thornton&#8217;s blog, The Way of the Web. I liked what I saw [...] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] service from fellow Tidbits contributor Paul Bradshaw&#8217;s Online Journalism Blog, which republished Thornton&#8217;s article. A link from that repost led me to Thornton&#8217;s blog, The Way of the Web. I liked what I saw [...] </p>
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		<title>By: Christoph Schmitz &#187; Høydepunkter fra RSS</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christoph Schmitz &#187; Høydepunkter fra RSS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 12:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Norge og om den gir et riktig bilde. Som en oppfølging kan det være greit å lese Dan Thornton om hvorfor det er farlig å sammenligne print og nettall med hverandre. Jeg syns det kan være greit noen steder men kun for å måle enkle overordnede [...] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Norge og om den gir et riktig bilde. Som en oppfølging kan det være greit å lese Dan Thornton om hvorfor det er farlig å sammenligne print og nettall med hverandre. Jeg syns det kan være greit noen steder men kun for å måle enkle overordnede [...] </p>
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		<title>By: Internet Marketing, Strategy &#38; Technology Links - Apr 16, 2009 &#171; Sazbean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Internet Marketing, Strategy &#38; Technology Links - Apr 16, 2009 &#171; Sazbean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 12:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Why it’s dangerous to compare print figures to website stats (Online Journalism Blog) [...] </description>
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		<title>By: John Mecklin</title>
		<link>http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2009/04/14/why-its-dangerous-to-compare-print-figures-to-website-stats/#comment-9680</link>
		<dc:creator>John Mecklin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 22:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t gone in and parsed all the numbers relating to online vs. print readership. But the tendency of online enthusiasts to question the pass-along rates for daily newspapers is amusing to me.

The pass-along rate isn&#039;t some number ginned out of the air. It is the result of hundreds and hundreds of surveys over many, many (many!) years. Scarbrough, Media Audit -- you pick the survey entity, and the results pretty much always show a pass-along rate of between 2 and 3 readers for a daily newspaper. And how do these surveys show this? Let&#039;s consider the Media Audit, which takes a random sample representative of a metropolitan area and then asks (among hundreds of demographic and behavioral questions) each person in that sample whether he or she has read a particular publication within the last day, week, month. Because the sample is a random sample, the answers to those reading behavior questions can be generalized to the metro area (within the confidence range of the survey, of course). And when you do that, lo and behold, you come up with somewhere between 2 and 3 readers for every newspaper that is printed/circulated. The comment on pass-along rates in this post -- &quot;without being able to actually see what people do, rather than what they claim, it’s impossible to be totally accurate&quot; -- is simply untrue. When you have hundreds of surveys over decades, all with reasonable confidence intervals, showing the same thing, then you can bet the house that what they show is &quot;totally accurate.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t gone in and parsed all the numbers relating to online vs. print readership. But the tendency of online enthusiasts to question the pass-along rates for daily newspapers is amusing to me.</p>
<p>The pass-along rate isn&#8217;t some number ginned out of the air. It is the result of hundreds and hundreds of surveys over many, many (many!) years. Scarbrough, Media Audit &#8212; you pick the survey entity, and the results pretty much always show a pass-along rate of between 2 and 3 readers for a daily newspaper. And how do these surveys show this? Let&#8217;s consider the Media Audit, which takes a random sample representative of a metropolitan area and then asks (among hundreds of demographic and behavioral questions) each person in that sample whether he or she has read a particular publication within the last day, week, month. Because the sample is a random sample, the answers to those reading behavior questions can be generalized to the metro area (within the confidence range of the survey, of course). And when you do that, lo and behold, you come up with somewhere between 2 and 3 readers for every newspaper that is printed/circulated. The comment on pass-along rates in this post &#8212; &#8220;without being able to actually see what people do, rather than what they claim, it’s impossible to be totally accurate&#8221; &#8212; is simply untrue. When you have hundreds of surveys over decades, all with reasonable confidence intervals, showing the same thing, then you can bet the house that what they show is &#8220;totally accurate.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: The Wildfire Blog - Wildfire PR &#38; Marketing - Business and Consumer Technology Public Relations : Blog Archive : Knowing your uniques from your page views</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Wildfire Blog - Wildfire PR &#38; Marketing - Business and Consumer Technology Public Relations : Blog Archive : Knowing your uniques from your page views</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 19:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I was interested to read a blog post today (via the Online Journalism Blog) by Dan [...] </description>
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		<title>By: The danger of comparing print to online &#171; Virtualjournalist</title>
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		<dc:creator>The danger of comparing print to online &#171; Virtualjournalist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 16:39:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] link to Martin Langeveld&#8217;s assertion that only 3 percent of newspaper reading happens online. Dan Thornton counters with a compelling argument that the comparison between print and online readers isn&#8217;t very [...] </description>
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		<description>[...] Why it’s dangerous to compare print figures to website stats &#124; Online Journalism Blog &quot;There’s a big elephant in the news room: Whoever said that print newspaper readers were guaranteed to only be getting their online news from newspapers? I can get digital news on my mobile or my PC, via text,audio or video, and via social networks, blogs, websites, link aggregators, RSS, podcasts, videocasts, and from global sources. Whether or not print titles are only seeing a small percentage of their print readership visiting them online is less relevant, than how many of those readers are getting news content online from any source.&quot; (tags: circulation statistics distribution measuring+success news+biz tidbits+fodder newspapers) [...] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Why it’s dangerous to compare print figures to website stats | Online Journalism Blog &quot;There’s a big elephant in the news room: Whoever said that print newspaper readers were guaranteed to only be getting their online news from newspapers? I can get digital news on my mobile or my PC, via text,audio or video, and via social networks, blogs, websites, link aggregators, RSS, podcasts, videocasts, and from global sources. Whether or not print titles are only seeing a small percentage of their print readership visiting them online is less relevant, than how many of those readers are getting news content online from any source.&quot; (tags: circulation statistics distribution measuring+success news+biz tidbits+fodder newspapers) [...] </p>
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