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	<title>Comments on: The OJB guide to open news APIs &#8211; part 1: Guardian, NYT and Daylife</title>
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		<title>By: Hendrik</title>
		<link>http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2009/04/23/the-ojb-guide-to-open-news-apis-part-1-guardian-nyt-and-daylife/#comment-9792</link>
		<dc:creator>Hendrik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 13:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,
in Germany the discussion that big news portals should have open APIs has neither started yet. Instead they are still fighting with G*gle News that their content has been stolen. The advantage of opening the  platforms by using an API  has not reached their minds..unfortunately.

KR hendrik</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br />
in Germany the discussion that big news portals should have open APIs has neither started yet. Instead they are still fighting with G*gle News that their content has been stolen. The advantage of opening the  platforms by using an API  has not reached their minds..unfortunately.</p>
<p>KR hendrik</p>
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		<title>By: The Guardian kicks off the local data landgrab&#160;</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Guardian kicks off the local data landgrab&#160;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 19:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] that allow you to build your own feeds based on combinations of tags, authors and categories. And Open Platform is one of the most, well &#8211; open news platforms in the [...] </description>
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		<title>By: The Guardian kicks off the local data landgrab &#124; Online Journalism Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Guardian kicks off the local data landgrab &#124; Online Journalism Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 08:38:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ken ellis</title>
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		<dc:creator>ken ellis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 18:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andraz, Peter, actually we do provide mappings to different data sets, although its not well advertised.  Given one of our topics, either a URL or an ID, you can retrieve Freebase and Wikipedia endpoints.  Also, given a Wikipedia entry or a Freebase ID, you can find the matching topic within our system.  Right now this covers about 65,000 topics.  We also have a module we&#039;re releasing to some clients in the near future that use Freebase to pull in some structured data and mark up the page a simple RDFa standard.

The calls I mentioned above are detailed at the link associated with this post (http://labs.daylife.com/semanticweb.html), and don&#039;t require authentication unlike the free or pay versions of our API.

Regards,
Ken Ellis</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andraz, Peter, actually we do provide mappings to different data sets, although its not well advertised.  Given one of our topics, either a URL or an ID, you can retrieve Freebase and Wikipedia endpoints.  Also, given a Wikipedia entry or a Freebase ID, you can find the matching topic within our system.  Right now this covers about 65,000 topics.  We also have a module we&#8217;re releasing to some clients in the near future that use Freebase to pull in some structured data and mark up the page a simple RDFa standard.</p>
<p>The calls I mentioned above are detailed at the link associated with this post (<a href="http://labs.daylife.com/semanticweb.html" rel="nofollow" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/labs.daylife.com/semanticweb.html?referer=');">http://labs.daylife.com/semanticweb.html</a>), and don&#8217;t require authentication unlike the free or pay versions of our API.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Ken Ellis</p>
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		<title>By: links for 2009-04-23 &#171; Ex Orbite</title>
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		<dc:creator>links for 2009-04-23 &#171; Ex Orbite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 06:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The OJB guide to open news APIs - part 1: Guardian, NYT and Daylife &#124; Online Journalism Blog (tags: journalism mashup guardian api nytimes daylife) [...] </description>
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		<title>By: Arjun Ram</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arjun Ram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 02:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andaz,

These are early days in the news API&#039;s, it is actually good that they guys have their APIs because they are still innovating. This is the time to explore and innovate rather than confirming to a standard API. Classic example is no of words in an article, not sure which one offers it but one of has and reminder don&#039;t.

But your bigger point is well taken! They could/should offer an mapping to the linked data space. It will lead to dream of the semantic web coming true.

Think of this scenario: Find tickets to a metro in India near the ocean that hasnt had a terrorism in 12 months

Kayak API + Weather API +  News API + geonames API

News API should very clear knock mumbai out of the picture because the terrorism quotient  would be high for mumbai. You think Kayak will not pay a portion of its sales to the News API provider?

So this is the time to innovate so lets not stifle innovation? In fact I would suggest that they media do a better job of standardizing data on their pages like contributors, co-authors. Way too many of them have no standard way to even do this.

Back in the day my grandpa used to be able to follow his select 3 journalist/columnist. Even though technology has progressed so much it is not trivial for a nontechie person to do this same in their web site. Something is fundamentally wrong.

Matt McAlister,
I would request that you folks open up your taxonomy. I am sure there are some jewels in there that could contribute to the bigger news taxonomy.

BTW we are exploring all of these ideas in our startup based out of this small town called bangalore ;)

Thanks for providing a platform for continuing this discussion. While it is painful to see icons of news media go through this turbulence, exciting times lie ahead!

Cheers,
Arjun</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andaz,</p>
<p>These are early days in the news API&#8217;s, it is actually good that they guys have their APIs because they are still innovating. This is the time to explore and innovate rather than confirming to a standard API. Classic example is no of words in an article, not sure which one offers it but one of has and reminder don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>But your bigger point is well taken! They could/should offer an mapping to the linked data space. It will lead to dream of the semantic web coming true.</p>
<p>Think of this scenario: Find tickets to a metro in India near the ocean that hasnt had a terrorism in 12 months</p>
<p>Kayak API + Weather API +  News API + geonames API</p>
<p>News API should very clear knock mumbai out of the picture because the terrorism quotient  would be high for mumbai. You think Kayak will not pay a portion of its sales to the News API provider?</p>
<p>So this is the time to innovate so lets not stifle innovation? In fact I would suggest that they media do a better job of standardizing data on their pages like contributors, co-authors. Way too many of them have no standard way to even do this.</p>
<p>Back in the day my grandpa used to be able to follow his select 3 journalist/columnist. Even though technology has progressed so much it is not trivial for a nontechie person to do this same in their web site. Something is fundamentally wrong.</p>
<p>Matt McAlister,<br />
I would request that you folks open up your taxonomy. I am sure there are some jewels in there that could contribute to the bigger news taxonomy.</p>
<p>BTW we are exploring all of these ideas in our startup based out of this small town called bangalore <img src='http://onlinejournalismblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Thanks for providing a platform for continuing this discussion. While it is painful to see icons of news media go through this turbulence, exciting times lie ahead!</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Arjun</p>
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		<title>By: Andraz Tori</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andraz Tori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 23:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Matt,

yeah, I know that both have left the door open, which is a very good thing! I really hope something great comes out of it eventually! Probably I allowed too much of my momentary frustration to get out in the comment.

We worked a lot on large scale multi-domain cross-publisher data integration and we know it is not easy. But some heuristics and machine learning can get you very far quickly.  We did initial version of guardian tagswikipedia mappings internally...

About help... I think you already know what our engine can do regarding disambiguation to LOD, finding entities in unstructured text, etc., so we&#039;d be glad to help!

Andraz Tori, Zemanta</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Matt,</p>
<p>yeah, I know that both have left the door open, which is a very good thing! I really hope something great comes out of it eventually! Probably I allowed too much of my momentary frustration to get out in the comment.</p>
<p>We worked a lot on large scale multi-domain cross-publisher data integration and we know it is not easy. But some heuristics and machine learning can get you very far quickly.  We did initial version of guardian tagswikipedia mappings internally&#8230;</p>
<p>About help&#8230; I think you already know what our engine can do regarding disambiguation to LOD, finding entities in unstructured text, etc., so we&#8217;d be glad to help!</p>
<p>Andraz Tori, Zemanta</p>
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		<title>By: Matt McAlister</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt McAlister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 22:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neither NYT nor The Guardian decided not to collaborate on linking data.  It makes a lot of sense to do that, and we could use some help in making it happen.

Matt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neither NYT nor The Guardian decided not to collaborate on linking data.  It makes a lot of sense to do that, and we could use some help in making it happen.</p>
<p>Matt</p>
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		<title>By: Andraz Tori</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andraz Tori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 15:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter,

while we are London based company, me &amp; whole development team is in Slovenia (feel free to visit, it&#039;s a great place! :)

Peter, I am also interested in what you are working on at Broadersheet?

Generally we try to persuade people to join the Linking Open Data and link their data with existing ones. Also, we&#039;re not a strong believers in &#039;grand semantic web&#039; vision, but using URIs as global identifiers and some semi-global vocabulary makes things much easier to integrate.


Btw: we also offer an API, do you know it?

bye
Andraz Tori, Zemanta</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter,</p>
<p>while we are London based company, me &amp; whole development team is in Slovenia (feel free to visit, it&#8217;s a great place! <img src='http://onlinejournalismblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Peter, I am also interested in what you are working on at Broadersheet?</p>
<p>Generally we try to persuade people to join the Linking Open Data and link their data with existing ones. Also, we&#8217;re not a strong believers in &#8216;grand semantic web&#8217; vision, but using URIs as global identifiers and some semi-global vocabulary makes things much easier to integrate.</p>
<p>Btw: we also offer an API, do you know it?</p>
<p>bye<br />
Andraz Tori, Zemanta</p>
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		<title>By: Plataformas abertas em discussão &#171; Charles Cadé Blog / Comunicação, tecnologia e criatividade</title>
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		<dc:creator>Plataformas abertas em discussão &#171; Charles Cadé Blog / Comunicação, tecnologia e criatividade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 14:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] abertas em&#160;discussão 2009 Abril 23   tags: API, jornalismo by charles c   O OJB iniciou uma série sobre quais os sites jornalísticos com os melhores projetos envolvendo API (Interface de Programação de Aplicativos). No primeiro texto, The Guardian, New York Times e [...] </description>
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