Comments on: How “organised” was the Jan Moir campaign?

By: What’s your problem with the internet? A crib sheet for news exec speeches

What’s your problem with the internet? A crib sheet for news exec speeches — Tue, 08 Dec 2009 14:45:31 +0000

[...] quickly. Look at what happened to Robert Scoble when he posted something inaccurate; or to Jan Moir when she wrote something people felt was in bad taste. That accountability didn’t exist in the formal structures of mainstream [...]

By: Back to Basics « The view across the bar.

Back to Basics « The view across the bar. — Thu, 22 Oct 2009 13:05:42 +0000

[...] The insanely militarised, Cold-War conditioned generation that dominates Western politics accept authority. It is the governing principle of their entire society; if an editor prints something it must be true or They wouldn’t “let him” say those things. The impetus for the re-engagement of young people in politics comes in part from the creation of a voice that circumvents the Establishment. The issue is about citizen journalism, just like it was for the Founding Fathers. It’s about education: American youth is increasingly finding this for itself, online, after decades of inadequate public schooling, crippled in its turn by religious bigotry. The ball game now is about things like this. [...]

By: Rapscallion

Rapscallion — Wed, 21 Oct 2009 16:53:45 +0000

I think many commentators are missing the point.

I complained to the PCbloodyC, not because someone told me to on Twitter or Facebook.

What I wanted and what I wrote to the
PCbloodyC was for them to record the breadth and depth of feeling against the article. Because homophobia, like racism should be challenged.

But did I think it would change the Ms Moir/DM’s views? No.

Did I think it would force some kind of apology? No.

Did I think the PCbloodyC would even look at my complaint. No. (Of course I knew before even putting finger to keypad that the PCbloodyC does not consider complaints unless you are directly affected by the story – just don’t even get me started on the uselessness of the PCbloodyC!!)

Did I by submitting a complaint want to prevent the freedom of Ms Moir (I bet she hates “Ms”) to express such views? No.

Did I think that all the time I was venting my fury to the PCbloodyC that the DM was absolutely loving this and even as I furiously typed away, Ms Moir was being hauled before her lord and master (and BTW PCbloodyC member) Paul Dacre not to be censured for such folly but for him to congratulate her on a rabble-rousing-job-well-done, and “here, have a bonus this month”. Abso-kin-lutely.

By: Barb

Barb — Wed, 21 Oct 2009 03:11:41 +0000

I’m an American and even I was aware of the outrage before I saw Stephen’s tweet. He does have a lot of followers and I’m sure they made up a good percentage of the outraged but he’s not the only one spreading the news. I saw quite a few articles/blogs/message board posts about it. But I agree, what difference does it make? No one is going to go to the bother to ring anyone up if they don’t find it offensive even if Mr Fry tells them to.

By: Evening Standard lowers itself to a bully’s station « 853

Evening Standard lowers itself to a bully’s station « 853 — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 14:17:43 +0000

[...] Irish edition distancing itself from the London paper’s columnist this morning, and some of the media’s smarter minds putting to the test Moir’s claim that the fury over her column was actually “heavily orchestrated”. Not like the Mail to [...]

By: janeejane

janeejane — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 12:48:23 +0000

I saw a tweet from a friend first then Stephen fry’s. I then went back to the friends tweet which had the url. I tweeted myself after reading the article without a url as i didn’t want to fund the daily mail’s ad coffers.

I take offense that i was ‘organised’ I don’t tend to tweet about everything I read.
I never used the hashtag. the piece was appalling and there are alot of people who don’t like the Daily Mail

By: The rise of ’smart’ or ‘not so smart’ internet mobs and their pressure on the media « CU Today

Tue, 20 Oct 2009 11:27:33 +0000

[...] In response, HelpMeInvestigate.com, the crowd-sourced journalism site in beta, has launched an investigation into the nature of the campaign: just how ‘organised’ was the #janmoir / Jan Moir campaign, it asks. [...]

By: Was Jan Moir Twitter outcry ‘orchestrated’? | Twitter News - Twimmer.com

Tue, 20 Oct 2009 10:28:05 +0000

[...] University, investigates the orchestration on Help me investigate… and points out: “…of course this isn’t about definitions, but about the discourse of what ‘organise…“Jan MoirDigital mediaTwitterDaily MailNewspapersNational newspapersStephen GatelyMercedes [...]

By: Martin Togher

Martin Togher — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 08:38:24 +0000

is that a joke Sepian?

By: Sepian

Sepian — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 02:42:26 +0000

Of course it was organized, they’ve no kids to raise, so they’ve nothing better to do.