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		<title>By: james</title>
		<link>http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2009/10/23/the-bnp-on-question-time-the-view-from-the-user-generated-content-hub/#comment-13612</link>
		<dc:creator>james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 01:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello  Jenni, from a fellow brit in aussie land, agree with you completely, the worm is being to turn , APHOS, 2000 YEARS AGO thous that try to please everone in the end please no oneI think the british donkey has well and truely fallen of the bridge and is drowning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello  Jenni, from a fellow brit in aussie land, agree with you completely, the worm is being to turn , APHOS, 2000 YEARS AGO thous that try to please everone in the end please no oneI think the british donkey has well and truely fallen of the bridge and is drowning.</p>
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		<title>By: Englishman</title>
		<link>http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2009/10/23/the-bnp-on-question-time-the-view-from-the-user-generated-content-hub/#comment-13611</link>
		<dc:creator>Englishman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 10:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are real issues to debate about immigration, religion and freedom of speach. There are no easy answers, and everyone has a right to their own opinion even if others find it disgusting.

But the risk is that lies are becoming accepted as truth, like the bizzare fantasy that immigrants get priority for housing (see http://www.ippr.org.uk/pressreleases/?id=3637 for independant research) or that the Holocaust was faked (please...).

Scapegoating plays to a real human instinct to blame &quot;them&quot; for everthing. Its behind every genocide and massacre in history - from the Hutsis to the Nazis.

Remeber your GSCE history lessons on propaganda? The BNP are leading ordinary people down a dark path with their manipulation and image management. They want to channel your (often justified) anger for their own purposes.

And its a powerful tactic, which seems to be working - hence the views on this page that anyone that hates the BNP must by definition be &quot;lefty&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are real issues to debate about immigration, religion and freedom of speach. There are no easy answers, and everyone has a right to their own opinion even if others find it disgusting.</p>
<p>But the risk is that lies are becoming accepted as truth, like the bizzare fantasy that immigrants get priority for housing (see <a href="http://www.ippr.org.uk/pressreleases/?id=3637" rel="nofollow" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.ippr.org.uk/pressreleases/?id=3637&amp;referer=');">http://www.ippr.org.uk/pressreleases/?id=3637</a> for independant research) or that the Holocaust was faked (please&#8230;).</p>
<p>Scapegoating plays to a real human instinct to blame &#8220;them&#8221; for everthing. Its behind every genocide and massacre in history &#8211; from the Hutsis to the Nazis.</p>
<p>Remeber your GSCE history lessons on propaganda? The BNP are leading ordinary people down a dark path with their manipulation and image management. They want to channel your (often justified) anger for their own purposes.</p>
<p>And its a powerful tactic, which seems to be working &#8211; hence the views on this page that anyone that hates the BNP must by definition be &#8220;lefty&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike @ Buzzchow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike @ Buzzchow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 02:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I watched the whole QT on YouTube a couple of days after the actual show. For me, they didn&#039;t give him enough rope to hang himself. Let the man speak. He&#039;s obviously a liar. People can see that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I watched the whole QT on YouTube a couple of days after the actual show. For me, they didn&#8217;t give him enough rope to hang himself. Let the man speak. He&#8217;s obviously a liar. People can see that.</p>
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		<title>By: ya duno bun bmp</title>
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		<dc:creator>ya duno bun bmp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 23:14:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BUN BMP DERE ALL A BUNCH OF F****** WAN*** THEY BUN DEM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BUN BMP DERE ALL A BUNCH OF F****** WAN*** THEY BUN DEM</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Heerenveen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack Heerenveen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 22:38:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I watched the QT. I read the Guardian online regularly anyway plus other international news sites. I have been googling &#039;question time&#039; and that is how i reach this blog (not actually sure what blog it is but see this thread).

Suprised..well disappointed these last few weeks to see how immature the &#039;left-wing&#039;, unscrupulous, fascist actually so many of them are. Using fascist and undemocratic tactics, black properganda - more and more frantically to prevent democratic debate and zero-in on the real proposals. Just reading through this thread - quite bizarre almost a mccarthyite paranoia that supportive or sympathetic comments appearing on news sites are probably the result of a organised campaign by a &#039;team&#039; of BNP activits.

did you know that the British Union of Fascists was a Labour splinter group created by Labour minister Oswald Moseley?

are you aware that there are people of various &#039;color&#039; oppossed to the economic consequences of unmoderated immigration?

Guys, please take it from a moderate, liberal, peaceful person. These are mainstream reactions from mainstream people. Left wing peer groups acting astounded and shocked by the grass-roots reactions to the QT debacle are real. The fascism in actuality is coming from people like the UAF and the autocratic Labour government. Please wake up. thanks.

Jack, London, England.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I watched the QT. I read the Guardian online regularly anyway plus other international news sites. I have been googling &#8216;question time&#8217; and that is how i reach this blog (not actually sure what blog it is but see this thread).</p>
<p>Suprised..well disappointed these last few weeks to see how immature the &#8216;left-wing&#8217;, unscrupulous, fascist actually so many of them are. Using fascist and undemocratic tactics, black properganda &#8211; more and more frantically to prevent democratic debate and zero-in on the real proposals. Just reading through this thread &#8211; quite bizarre almost a mccarthyite paranoia that supportive or sympathetic comments appearing on news sites are probably the result of a organised campaign by a &#8216;team&#8217; of BNP activits.</p>
<p>did you know that the British Union of Fascists was a Labour splinter group created by Labour minister Oswald Moseley?</p>
<p>are you aware that there are people of various &#8216;color&#8217; oppossed to the economic consequences of unmoderated immigration?</p>
<p>Guys, please take it from a moderate, liberal, peaceful person. These are mainstream reactions from mainstream people. Left wing peer groups acting astounded and shocked by the grass-roots reactions to the QT debacle are real. The fascism in actuality is coming from people like the UAF and the autocratic Labour government. Please wake up. thanks.</p>
<p>Jack, London, England.</p>
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		<title>By: Jenni</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jenni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 06:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excuses, excuses.
Sit around for another few more hours and you might be able to come up with some more bull crap as an excuse.
The simple fact of the matter is that the BNP has obviously hit a raw nerve with the truth and people are starting to come out of the woodwork in their thousands to say what they have only been thinking for the last 20 to 30 years. Enough is enough we have as much right as well as the lefies and Muslim fanatics out there to have a say as well.
The sooner that you bunch of drongos learn that this still is a democratic country the better.
Cheers, have a great day.
Brit in Aussie.
PS By the way plenty of support for the BNP over here as well.
So put that in all your lefty dope pipes and smoke it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excuses, excuses.<br />
Sit around for another few more hours and you might be able to come up with some more bull crap as an excuse.<br />
The simple fact of the matter is that the BNP has obviously hit a raw nerve with the truth and people are starting to come out of the woodwork in their thousands to say what they have only been thinking for the last 20 to 30 years. Enough is enough we have as much right as well as the lefies and Muslim fanatics out there to have a say as well.<br />
The sooner that you bunch of drongos learn that this still is a democratic country the better.<br />
Cheers, have a great day.<br />
Brit in Aussie.<br />
PS By the way plenty of support for the BNP over here as well.<br />
So put that in all your lefty dope pipes and smoke it!</p>
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		<title>By: Englishman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Englishman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 14:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can almost imagine the BNP party members organising themselves for this as soon as NG&#039;s place on the panel was confirmed. It is one of the few avenues they have to directly reach a large target audience, and a way of giving an impression of an &quot;underlying&quot; support that is not reflected in the mainstream media.

If nothing else, the huge number of pro-BNP policy comments is suprising, given what polls tell us about the views of British people.

But it would be difficult to stop... its one thing spotting similar mistakes, but how can you detect small but well motivated groups with multiple log-ins posting (and recomending) multiple messages? They had time to prepare after all.

Even if they went over the top, the 1000 anti-facist protesters at least made a public statement of their beliefs - the deluge of HYS and Sky News comments could easily have been made by a handful of similarly committed but secretive racists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can almost imagine the BNP party members organising themselves for this as soon as NG&#8217;s place on the panel was confirmed. It is one of the few avenues they have to directly reach a large target audience, and a way of giving an impression of an &#8220;underlying&#8221; support that is not reflected in the mainstream media.</p>
<p>If nothing else, the huge number of pro-BNP policy comments is suprising, given what polls tell us about the views of British people.</p>
<p>But it would be difficult to stop&#8230; its one thing spotting similar mistakes, but how can you detect small but well motivated groups with multiple log-ins posting (and recomending) multiple messages? They had time to prepare after all.</p>
<p>Even if they went over the top, the 1000 anti-facist protesters at least made a public statement of their beliefs &#8211; the deluge of HYS and Sky News comments could easily have been made by a handful of similarly committed but secretive racists.</p>
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		<title>By: Murray Dick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Murray Dick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 14:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surely anyone mispelling the BNP as BMP repeatedly would be a troll who DISAGREED with the party. I know some opposers of the BNP are convinced the letters stand for “British Man’s Party”.
_ _ _ _ _

Not if it was a mistake made in haste.  If you&#039;re trying to bang out as many messages as possible in a given time, its likely you&#039;ll make the same mistypes.  I spotted 7 mentions of BMP, only one was anti-BNP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surely anyone mispelling the BNP as BMP repeatedly would be a troll who DISAGREED with the party. I know some opposers of the BNP are convinced the letters stand for “British Man’s Party”.<br />
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<p>Not if it was a mistake made in haste.  If you&#8217;re trying to bang out as many messages as possible in a given time, its likely you&#8217;ll make the same mistypes.  I spotted 7 mentions of BMP, only one was anti-BNP.</p>
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		<title>By: Jane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 14:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surely anyone mispelling the BNP as BMP repeatedly would be a troll who DISAGREED with the party.  I know some opposers of the BNP are convinced the letters stand for &quot;British Man&#039;s Party&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surely anyone mispelling the BNP as BMP repeatedly would be a troll who DISAGREED with the party.  I know some opposers of the BNP are convinced the letters stand for &#8220;British Man&#8217;s Party&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Englishman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Englishman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 14:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would appear from a quick look at HYS and the Sky News comments that a lot of the entries were suspiciously similar. Lots of repeated phrases following the same pattern.

Also seems a high number of &quot;recomends&quot; for each of the comments - would be interesting to see if these are consistent with historic trends.

Given the potential impact of these comments, I think measures to screen for trolling campaigns should be stepped up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would appear from a quick look at HYS and the Sky News comments that a lot of the entries were suspiciously similar. Lots of repeated phrases following the same pattern.</p>
<p>Also seems a high number of &#8220;recomends&#8221; for each of the comments &#8211; would be interesting to see if these are consistent with historic trends.</p>
<p>Given the potential impact of these comments, I think measures to screen for trolling campaigns should be stepped up.</p>
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