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	<title>Comments on: From a 15-year-old’s blog to MSM: Bleachgate and Miracle Mineral Solutions</title>
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		<title>By: Bleachgate: Teen Takes on Dangerous &#34;Miracle Solution&#34;</title>
		<link>http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2010/09/15/from-a-15-year-olds-blog-to-msm-bleachgate-reaches-msm/#comment-16614</link>
		<dc:creator>Bleachgate: Teen Takes on Dangerous &#34;Miracle Solution&#34;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2010 18:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Online Journalism Blog, which hosts a video of Rhys describing his role in Bleachgate, encourages bloggers to link Miracle Mineral Solution to the Guardian article, in order to highlight the quackery going on. [...] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Online Journalism Blog, which hosts a video of Rhys describing his role in Bleachgate, encourages bloggers to link Miracle Mineral Solution to the Guardian article, in order to highlight the quackery going on. [...] </p>
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		<title>By: alice</title>
		<link>http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2010/09/15/from-a-15-year-olds-blog-to-msm-bleachgate-reaches-msm/#comment-16613</link>
		<dc:creator>alice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Sep 2010 21:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry Martin, didn&#039;t mean my comment to imply you weren&#039;t a journalist. I&#039;m sorry you read blogger v journ into that comment - really wasn&#039;t the intention (also didn&#039;t realise that was a &quot;column&quot; piece hard to spot distinction online). I thought it was worth celebrating the blogging network, but turns out that it can&#039;t take credit. 

Still, we could more plainly say that Martin writes for the Guardian via his work as a skeptic blogger and the Guardian&#039;s willingness/ keenness to bring in such voices. So, to make my point differently, it&#039;s great that Martin&#039;s used his column in this way, and I hope the story gets as much coverage as possibly, but I also hope that it is covered from other angles, because though arguably the most important part of the story is the anti-quack element, I personally think it can say more than that, to further audiences. 

p.s. look more coverage at &lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.plos.org/takeasdirected/2010/09/19/bleachgate-more-miracle-mineral-solution-madness/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;PloS&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.plos.org/takeasdirected/2010/09/19/bleachgate-more-miracle-mineral-solution-madness/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;blogs&lt;/a&gt; - I think off the back of Jo&#039;s post. As well as coverage in the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nation.co.ke/News/Malaria%20drug%20endangers%20Kenyan%20lives%20/-/1056/1012418/-/11e26ja/-/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Kenyan&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/Editorial/Miracle%20supplement%20dangerous%20to%20Kenyans%20%20/-/440804/1014118/-/1luiwo/-/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;media&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Martin, didn&#8217;t mean my comment to imply you weren&#8217;t a journalist. I&#8217;m sorry you read blogger v journ into that comment &#8211; really wasn&#8217;t the intention (also didn&#8217;t realise that was a &#8220;column&#8221; piece hard to spot distinction online). I thought it was worth celebrating the blogging network, but turns out that it can&#8217;t take credit. </p>
<p>Still, we could more plainly say that Martin writes for the Guardian via his work as a skeptic blogger and the Guardian&#8217;s willingness/ keenness to bring in such voices. So, to make my point differently, it&#8217;s great that Martin&#8217;s used his column in this way, and I hope the story gets as much coverage as possibly, but I also hope that it is covered from other angles, because though arguably the most important part of the story is the anti-quack element, I personally think it can say more than that, to further audiences. </p>
<p>p.s. look more coverage at <a href="http://blogs.plos.org/takeasdirected/2010/09/19/bleachgate-more-miracle-mineral-solution-madness/" rel="nofollow" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/blogs.plos.org/takeasdirected/2010/09/19/bleachgate-more-miracle-mineral-solution-madness/?referer=');">PloS</a> <a href="http://blogs.plos.org/takeasdirected/2010/09/19/bleachgate-more-miracle-mineral-solution-madness/" rel="nofollow" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/blogs.plos.org/takeasdirected/2010/09/19/bleachgate-more-miracle-mineral-solution-madness/?referer=');">blogs</a> &#8211; I think off the back of Jo&#8217;s post. As well as coverage in the <a href="http://www.nation.co.ke/News/Malaria%20drug%20endangers%20Kenyan%20lives%20/-/1056/1012418/-/11e26ja/-/" rel="nofollow" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.nation.co.ke/News/Malaria_20drug_20endangers_20Kenyan_20lives_20/-/1056/1012418/-/11e26ja/-/?referer=');">Kenyan</a> <a href="http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/Editorial/Miracle%20supplement%20dangerous%20to%20Kenyans%20%20/-/440804/1014118/-/1luiwo/-/" rel="nofollow" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.nation.co.ke/oped/Editorial/Miracle_20supplement_20dangerous_20to_20Kenyans_20_20/-/440804/1014118/-/1luiwo/-/?referer=');">media</a></p>
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		<title>By: Martin Robbins</title>
		<link>http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2010/09/15/from-a-15-year-olds-blog-to-msm-bleachgate-reaches-msm/#comment-16612</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Robbins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Sep 2010 20:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding my status at the Guardian, this wasn&#039;t a blog post, it was a column - I&#039;ve been a columnist and freelance journalist for The Guardian a lot longer than I&#039;ve been a column. But in general I find the whole blogger vs. journalist vs. MSM categorization obsession really annoying - it&#039;s possible now for a blog to be mainstream media, and it&#039;s possible for a blogger to be a journalist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding my status at the Guardian, this wasn&#8217;t a blog post, it was a column &#8211; I&#8217;ve been a columnist and freelance journalist for The Guardian a lot longer than I&#8217;ve been a column. But in general I find the whole blogger vs. journalist vs. MSM categorization obsession really annoying &#8211; it&#8217;s possible now for a blog to be mainstream media, and it&#8217;s possible for a blogger to be a journalist.</p>
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		<title>By: Jo Brodie</title>
		<link>http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2010/09/15/from-a-15-year-olds-blog-to-msm-bleachgate-reaches-msm/#comment-16611</link>
		<dc:creator>Jo Brodie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Sep 2010 19:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks to Alice for reminding me of your clever idea Paul - I have blogged about it too. There&#039;s no new information in the post but plenty of links :)

(bwahahahaha)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to Alice for reminding me of your clever idea Paul &#8211; I have blogged about it too. There&#8217;s no new information in the post but plenty of links <img src='http://onlinejournalismblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>(bwahahahaha)</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Bradshaw</title>
		<link>http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2010/09/15/from-a-15-year-olds-blog-to-msm-bleachgate-reaches-msm/#comment-16610</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Bradshaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Sep 2010 16:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes - it is the less mainstream part of MSM &amp; it was difficult to find a phrase to describe Martin - reporter-blogger? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes &#8211; it is the less mainstream part of MSM &amp; it was difficult to find a phrase to describe Martin &#8211; reporter-blogger? </p>
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		<title>By: alice</title>
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		<dc:creator>alice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Sep 2010 16:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Though it is now on the Guardian site, which as you say is important, it&#039;s not really MSM coverage in some respects. Sort of, depends on definition. Martin is not a reporter as such, more a skeptical blogger - recently brought into the Guardian through their &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.niemanlab.org/2010/09/a-completely-new-model-for-us-the-guardian-gives-outsiders-the-power-to-publish-for-the-first-time/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;science blogging network&lt;/a&gt; (though also Martin is arguably changing his career slightly via that move).

I&#039;d love to see the issues covered from a mainstream perspective - to get more readers but also think about the issue in broader ways too. Took your lead though I finally got around to &lt;a href=&quot;http://alicerosebell.wordpress.com/2010/09/17/miracle-mineral-solutions-2/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;blogging about it too&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Though it is now on the Guardian site, which as you say is important, it&#8217;s not really MSM coverage in some respects. Sort of, depends on definition. Martin is not a reporter as such, more a skeptical blogger &#8211; recently brought into the Guardian through their <a href="http://www.niemanlab.org/2010/09/a-completely-new-model-for-us-the-guardian-gives-outsiders-the-power-to-publish-for-the-first-time/" rel="nofollow" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.niemanlab.org/2010/09/a-completely-new-model-for-us-the-guardian-gives-outsiders-the-power-to-publish-for-the-first-time/?referer=');">science blogging network</a> (though also Martin is arguably changing his career slightly via that move).</p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to see the issues covered from a mainstream perspective &#8211; to get more readers but also think about the issue in broader ways too. Took your lead though I finally got around to <a href="http://alicerosebell.wordpress.com/2010/09/17/miracle-mineral-solutions-2/" rel="nofollow" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/alicerosebell.wordpress.com/2010/09/17/miracle-mineral-solutions-2/?referer=');">blogging about it too</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Miracle Mineral Solutions &#171; through the looking glass</title>
		<link>http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2010/09/15/from-a-15-year-olds-blog-to-msm-bleachgate-reaches-msm/#comment-16608</link>
		<dc:creator>Miracle Mineral Solutions &#171; through the looking glass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Sep 2010 16:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] great that Martin&#8217;s connection there gets the story into such a high profile site (and, as Paul Bradshaw says, it&#8217;d be good if lots of people link to The Guardian’s piece with the words Miracle Mineral [...] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] great that Martin&#8217;s connection there gets the story into such a high profile site (and, as Paul Bradshaw says, it&#8217;d be good if lots of people link to The Guardian’s piece with the words Miracle Mineral [...] </p>
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