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		<title>By: El Diamante de Noticias reinterpretado &#171; tejiendo redes</title>
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		<dc:creator>El Diamante de Noticias reinterpretado &#171; tejiendo redes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Dec 2010 19:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Deja un comentario   El Diamante de Noticias es la parte fundamental del Modelo para la Redacción del Siglo XXI y por eso es tan interesante analizarlo y proponer variantes (sabemos que en periodismo online no hay fórmulas todavía y es genial eso). Hace un tiempo vimos el Ciclo de vida de las noticias digitales como una adaptación al Diamante de Noticias y ahora nos llega otra reinterpretación del modelo de Paul Bradshaw. [...] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Deja un comentario   El Diamante de Noticias es la parte fundamental del Modelo para la Redacción del Siglo XXI y por eso es tan interesante analizarlo y proponer variantes (sabemos que en periodismo online no hay fórmulas todavía y es genial eso). Hace un tiempo vimos el Ciclo de vida de las noticias digitales como una adaptación al Diamante de Noticias y ahora nos llega otra reinterpretación del modelo de Paul Bradshaw. [...] </p>
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		<title>By: O diamante noticioso reintrepretado : Ponto Media</title>
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		<dc:creator>O diamante noticioso reintrepretado : Ponto Media</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 15:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] LEMBRAM-SE do diamante noticioso? Aqui está um novo post sobre o tema que vale a pena ler &#8211; The News Diamond reinterpreted: “Let the crowd have the middle”. [...] </description>
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		<title>By: Beefcurtains &#187; Moms Making Money</title>
		<link>http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2010/11/26/the-news-diamond-reinterpreted-let-the-crowd-have-the-middle/#comment-17345</link>
		<dc:creator>Beefcurtains &#187; Moms Making Money</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Nov 2010 20:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The &lt;b&gt;News&lt;/b&gt; Diamond reinterpreted: “Let the crowd have the middle &lt;b&gt;&#8230;... [...] </description>
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		<title>By: Peter Demain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Demain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Nov 2010 14:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are benefits other than the monetary: a well-informed public; governments and firms better held to account; better work environment than being officebound all day; certain satisfaction from doing something meaningful...

All this stuff benefits in a way that isn&#039;t quantifiable in a figure. If it means foregoing top-heavy corporate culture and the drudge of wire and PR infested cannibilizing to my mind that&#039;s well worth a pay cut. The trade at present has degenerated to a pedestrian white-collar trade with most of its uniqueness and skills absent.

Pete</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are benefits other than the monetary: a well-informed public; governments and firms better held to account; better work environment than being officebound all day; certain satisfaction from doing something meaningful&#8230;</p>
<p>All this stuff benefits in a way that isn&#8217;t quantifiable in a figure. If it means foregoing top-heavy corporate culture and the drudge of wire and PR infested cannibilizing to my mind that&#8217;s well worth a pay cut. The trade at present has degenerated to a pedestrian white-collar trade with most of its uniqueness and skills absent.</p>
<p>Pete</p>
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		<title>By: The Worst of Perth</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Worst of Perth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Nov 2010 12:57:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not clear that raising the bar is going to make journalism pay. But then neither has lowering it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not clear that raising the bar is going to make journalism pay. But then neither has lowering it.</p>
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		<title>By: The News Diamond reinterpreted: “Let the crowd have the middle &#8230; &#124; Scott Ashjian News</title>
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		<dc:creator>The News Diamond reinterpreted: “Let the crowd have the middle &#8230; &#124; Scott Ashjian News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Nov 2010 16:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the rest here: The News Diamond reinterpreted: “Let the crowd have the middle &#8230;   Comments [...] </description>
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		<title>By: Peter Demain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Demain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Nov 2010 15:49:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clarification on principles: I meant they&#039;re old, rather than prevalent in an idealized past. Journalism has always been flawed, though it&#039;s probably more festering now than anytime prior with principles amongst paid hacks in particular foregone by default. When humans who aren&#039;t even paid represent the ideals better in what they do it follows that there are some huge problems on the commercial side.

Whether the worst offenders in the drudge (of which there are thousands) should even be considered journalists is debatable. To quote a term coined by Nick Davies, they&#039;d be better described as &lt;i&gt;&#039;churnalists&#039;&lt;/i&gt;.

Pete</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clarification on principles: I meant they&#8217;re old, rather than prevalent in an idealized past. Journalism has always been flawed, though it&#8217;s probably more festering now than anytime prior with principles amongst paid hacks in particular foregone by default. When humans who aren&#8217;t even paid represent the ideals better in what they do it follows that there are some huge problems on the commercial side.</p>
<p>Whether the worst offenders in the drudge (of which there are thousands) should even be considered journalists is debatable. To quote a term coined by Nick Davies, they&#8217;d be better described as <i>&#8216;churnalists&#8217;</i>.</p>
<p>Pete</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Demain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Demain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Nov 2010 15:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gotta say that this diagram reminded me very much of the charts and graphs of &lt;i&gt;The Day Today.&lt;/i&gt;

To me the crux of it all is creating good shit. Whatever &#039;good&#039; is to the hack concerned in terms of predilections and skill.

Jonathon said: &lt;i&gt;&quot;The future of Journalism is not to become public service with the hopes of gratuity, but a professional service with professional expectations and results.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

There are other trades deemed professional that act in service of the public: this fact lessens the impact of this statement. That&#039;s without getting into the semantics of professionalism, what that ought to or does entail blah de blah.

I see posts in blogs that are better than the newspapers in that they adhere to the principles that defined journalism before the presses were unearthed from the familial/paternalistic owners and replanted in the back yard of various big firms. Things like evidence, facts, checking, truth, accuracy, and as much impartiality as can be mustered - even if that historically perfection in that matter has not been acheived by any single journo.

If professionalism is in blogs and salaried hacks are doing subpar churnalist claptrap sourced from the wire - isn&#039;t the officebound situation at present upended compared to what should be the case?

Economics will settle this. In the meantime I suggest journalism as an activity worthy of pursuit rather than theorizing diamond charts since most hacks won&#039;t look at them with even less enthused enough to take it to heart in making journalism.

Pete, editor at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dirtygarnet.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Dirty Garnet&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gotta say that this diagram reminded me very much of the charts and graphs of <i>The Day Today.</i></p>
<p>To me the crux of it all is creating good shit. Whatever &#8216;good&#8217; is to the hack concerned in terms of predilections and skill.</p>
<p>Jonathon said: <i>&#8220;The future of Journalism is not to become public service with the hopes of gratuity, but a professional service with professional expectations and results.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>There are other trades deemed professional that act in service of the public: this fact lessens the impact of this statement. That&#8217;s without getting into the semantics of professionalism, what that ought to or does entail blah de blah.</p>
<p>I see posts in blogs that are better than the newspapers in that they adhere to the principles that defined journalism before the presses were unearthed from the familial/paternalistic owners and replanted in the back yard of various big firms. Things like evidence, facts, checking, truth, accuracy, and as much impartiality as can be mustered &#8211; even if that historically perfection in that matter has not been acheived by any single journo.</p>
<p>If professionalism is in blogs and salaried hacks are doing subpar churnalist claptrap sourced from the wire &#8211; isn&#8217;t the officebound situation at present upended compared to what should be the case?</p>
<p>Economics will settle this. In the meantime I suggest journalism as an activity worthy of pursuit rather than theorizing diamond charts since most hacks won&#8217;t look at them with even less enthused enough to take it to heart in making journalism.</p>
<p>Pete, editor at <a href="http://www.dirtygarnet.com/" rel="nofollow" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.dirtygarnet.com/?referer=');">Dirty Garnet</a>.</p>
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