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		<title>By: Review of Online Journalism Blog &#171; Georgie Flower</title>
		<link>http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2011/03/23/should-you-brand-a-hashtag/#comment-18207</link>
		<dc:creator>Review of Online Journalism Blog &#171; Georgie Flower</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2011 21:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Alex Gubbay</title>
		<link>http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2011/03/23/should-you-brand-a-hashtag/#comment-18206</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Gubbay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2011 21:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks both.
Re your list point Martin, yes we&#039;re aiming to build more of these now we have a proper stable of accounts.
But hashtag of course brings the benefit of a thread that has all the updates, reaction to them and ensuing conversation all together.

Good discussion all round though.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks both.<br />
Re your list point Martin, yes we&#8217;re aiming to build more of these now we have a proper stable of accounts.<br />
But hashtag of course brings the benefit of a thread that has all the updates, reaction to them and ensuing conversation all together.</p>
<p>Good discussion all round though.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Bounds</title>
		<link>http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2011/03/23/should-you-brand-a-hashtag/#comment-18205</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Bounds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2011 19:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is the power, imho keeping separate conversations separate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is the power, imho keeping separate conversations separate.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich Harris</title>
		<link>http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2011/03/23/should-you-brand-a-hashtag/#comment-18204</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2011 19:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the link Jon, I hadn&#039;t come across the book previously. Looks interesting.

I take your point but I&#039;m still not totally convinced - it would be different if (e.g.) #budget, #budget11 and #budget2011 were separate because they&#039;d emerged from separate conversations, but the intention (unless I&#039;m very unrepresentative) of using any of these tags is to be part of &#039;the&#039; conversation about &#039;the&#039; event. Lots of us were asking on Twitter &#039;so which is it?&#039; so clearly there is an appetite for some way of bringing order, even if it&#039;s only among those of us who are relatively new to social media!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link Jon, I hadn&#8217;t come across the book previously. Looks interesting.</p>
<p>I take your point but I&#8217;m still not totally convinced &#8211; it would be different if (e.g.) #budget, #budget11 and #budget2011 were separate because they&#8217;d emerged from separate conversations, but the intention (unless I&#8217;m very unrepresentative) of using any of these tags is to be part of &#8216;the&#8217; conversation about &#8216;the&#8217; event. Lots of us were asking on Twitter &#8216;so which is it?&#8217; so clearly there is an appetite for some way of bringing order, even if it&#8217;s only among those of us who are relatively new to social media!</p>
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		<title>By: Vicky Taylor</title>
		<link>http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2011/03/23/should-you-brand-a-hashtag/#comment-18203</link>
		<dc:creator>Vicky Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2011 14:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting blog Paul --just to note that Channel 4 Disaptches has used twitter with a # recently -without any reference to the brand. #trainpain trended number 1 on Monday around a Richard Wilson programme on the state of British railways, #sellornot also trended nubmer one around a live programme on selling off the nation&#039;s assets a couple of weeks ago are just two examples. Doesn&#039;t it depend on how linked to the conversation the Channel idwntification is -- the #c4cuts is linked specifically to a map of user generated content pulling in information which the Channel 4 News programme is compiling - rather than a general conversation about cuts. As you probably saw when the Channel 4 News teams wrote about Japan on twitter they used #Japan along with everyone else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting blog Paul &#8211;just to note that Channel 4 Disaptches has used twitter with a # recently -without any reference to the brand. #trainpain trended number 1 on Monday around a Richard Wilson programme on the state of British railways, #sellornot also trended nubmer one around a live programme on selling off the nation&#8217;s assets a couple of weeks ago are just two examples. Doesn&#8217;t it depend on how linked to the conversation the Channel idwntification is &#8212; the #c4cuts is linked specifically to a map of user generated content pulling in information which the Channel 4 News programme is compiling &#8211; rather than a general conversation about cuts. As you probably saw when the Channel 4 News teams wrote about Japan on twitter they used #Japan along with everyone else.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Bounds</title>
		<link>http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2011/03/23/should-you-brand-a-hashtag/#comment-18202</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Bounds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2011 13:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rich:&quot; there’s no real way to know in advance which hashtag will dominate, and no effective way to reach a consensus. &quot;

That&#039;s just what makes hashtags and tagging in general so powerful, there is so much more there that the simple collecting of information together. That they are so simple is the root of that power, there may be journalistic reasons for wanting more control but they work against the use I think — tools would be interesting, Twitter&#039;s search API isn&#039;t quite up to the job.

(A great introduction to the power of folksomony is here http://www.everythingismiscellaneous.com/ )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rich:&#8221; there’s no real way to know in advance which hashtag will dominate, and no effective way to reach a consensus. &#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s just what makes hashtags and tagging in general so powerful, there is so much more there that the simple collecting of information together. That they are so simple is the root of that power, there may be journalistic reasons for wanting more control but they work against the use I think — tools would be interesting, Twitter&#8217;s search API isn&#8217;t quite up to the job.</p>
<p>(A great introduction to the power of folksomony is here <a href="http://www.everythingismiscellaneous.com/" rel="nofollow" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.everythingismiscellaneous.com/?referer=');">http://www.everythingismiscellaneous.com/</a> )</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Belam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin Belam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2011 13:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, congratulations Alex. I think one thing I was curious about was from the blog post about it, I wasn&#039;t clear how a list on Twitter wouldn&#039;t have achieved the same things?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, congratulations Alex. I think one thing I was curious about was from the blog post about it, I wasn&#8217;t clear how a list on Twitter wouldn&#8217;t have achieved the same things?</p>
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		<title>By: Jess McAree</title>
		<link>http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2011/03/23/should-you-brand-a-hashtag/#comment-18200</link>
		<dc:creator>Jess McAree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2011 08:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The point of branding a hashtag is surely political – for brand marketing purposes.

By adding BBC, C4 or Guardian to #cuts, you are inviting/attracting people who share the political leanings of those brands to congregate together in their tweets under those hashtags. If I search for tweets sorted under &#039;#C4cuts&#039;, I know I&#039;m going to read tweets with a very different political slant from the one characterising tweets grouped under, say, &#039;#telegraphcuts&#039;.

A large group toeing the BBC or C4 line on &#039;cuts&#039;, and tweeting the same political interpretation of them under one hashtag, creates a powerful impression of unity of opinion. Which, in turn, helps promote not only the political bias of the tweeters, but also the brand message/image of the publisher associated with the hashtag.

I find it all pretty nauseating, actually. But hey. That&#039;s media.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The point of branding a hashtag is surely political – for brand marketing purposes.</p>
<p>By adding BBC, C4 or Guardian to #cuts, you are inviting/attracting people who share the political leanings of those brands to congregate together in their tweets under those hashtags. If I search for tweets sorted under &#8216;#C4cuts&#8217;, I know I&#8217;m going to read tweets with a very different political slant from the one characterising tweets grouped under, say, &#8216;#telegraphcuts&#8217;.</p>
<p>A large group toeing the BBC or C4 line on &#8216;cuts&#8217;, and tweeting the same political interpretation of them under one hashtag, creates a powerful impression of unity of opinion. Which, in turn, helps promote not only the political bias of the tweeters, but also the brand message/image of the publisher associated with the hashtag.</p>
<p>I find it all pretty nauseating, actually. But hey. That&#8217;s media.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich Harris</title>
		<link>http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2011/03/23/should-you-brand-a-hashtag/#comment-18199</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Mar 2011 22:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The chart is very interesting - I&#039;d expected #budget11 to win given it was the &#039;official&#039; (i.e. HMT-sanctioned) hashtag. I find it surprising that we still don&#039;t have an adequate solution to the problem of hashtag proliferation in the week of Twitter&#039;s fifth birthday - there&#039;s no real way to know in advance which hashtag will dominate, and no effective way to reach a consensus. Anyone out there working on a solution?

What would help is a way to have niche hashtags (such as a hashtag for local coverage, as in Mary&#039;s example, or a hashtag for a particular online community - not that I find Alex&#039;s arguments for #BBCBudget especially persuasive!) that aren&#039;t excluded from the wider conversation (yes, you can cram every tweet full of every possible permutation and combination, but after you&#039;ve written &#039;#budget #budget11 #budget2011 #BBCBudget #nfkbudget&#039; you don&#039;t have much room left).

So it would be great if, for example, #budget-nfk tweets showed up when you searched for either #budget or #budget-nfk (without #budget tweets showing up in #budget-nfk searches). Best of both worlds - it would allow &#039;branded&#039; or niche conversations to happen without incurring Faisal Islam&#039;s scorn.

Don&#039;t think it works with hyphens though. Alternatives anyone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The chart is very interesting &#8211; I&#8217;d expected #budget11 to win given it was the &#8216;official&#8217; (i.e. HMT-sanctioned) hashtag. I find it surprising that we still don&#8217;t have an adequate solution to the problem of hashtag proliferation in the week of Twitter&#8217;s fifth birthday &#8211; there&#8217;s no real way to know in advance which hashtag will dominate, and no effective way to reach a consensus. Anyone out there working on a solution?</p>
<p>What would help is a way to have niche hashtags (such as a hashtag for local coverage, as in Mary&#8217;s example, or a hashtag for a particular online community &#8211; not that I find Alex&#8217;s arguments for #BBCBudget especially persuasive!) that aren&#8217;t excluded from the wider conversation (yes, you can cram every tweet full of every possible permutation and combination, but after you&#8217;ve written &#8216;#budget #budget11 #budget2011 #BBCBudget #nfkbudget&#8217; you don&#8217;t have much room left).</p>
<p>So it would be great if, for example, #budget-nfk tweets showed up when you searched for either #budget or #budget-nfk (without #budget tweets showing up in #budget-nfk searches). Best of both worlds &#8211; it would allow &#8216;branded&#8217; or niche conversations to happen without incurring Faisal Islam&#8217;s scorn.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t think it works with hyphens though. Alternatives anyone?</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Bradshaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Bradshaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Mar 2011 16:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having drowned in the avalanche of #budget tweets on Tweetdeck there&#039;s a clear argument here for &#039;branded&#039; hashtags as a form of curation, both within the newsroom and by a self-selecting audience. By adopting #BBCBudget you are identifying yourself with that news org and its audience, and narrowing what you talk about. See, this is why I blog these things...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having drowned in the avalanche of #budget tweets on Tweetdeck there&#8217;s a clear argument here for &#8216;branded&#8217; hashtags as a form of curation, both within the newsroom and by a self-selecting audience. By adopting #BBCBudget you are identifying yourself with that news org and its audience, and narrowing what you talk about. See, this is why I blog these things&#8230;</p>
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