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		<title>10 women in technology you should be following (Ada Lovelace Day)</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 13:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Paul Bradshaw</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks to a prompt from Jemima Kiss, I realised it&#8217;s Ada Lovelace day today. Thanks to Suw Charman-Anderson, I&#8217;ve signed a pledge to blog about a woman in technology I admire. Well in that sentence alone I&#8217;ve already mentioned two. I&#8217;ve already blogged about two other women in technology I admire: Jo Geary and danah boyd. So that makes 4. How about<br /><span class="read_more"><a href="http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2009/03/24/1-women-in-technology-you-should-be-following-ada-lovelace-day/">Read more...</a></span>]]></description>
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<p>Thanks to <a href="http://twitter.com/jemimakiss/status/1381461175" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/twitter.com/jemimakiss/status/1381461175?referer=');">a prompt from Jemima Kiss</a>, I realised it&#8217;s Ada Lovelace day today. Thanks to <a href="http://twitter.com/suw" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/twitter.com/suw?referer=');">Suw Charman-Anderson</a>, I&#8217;ve signed <a href="http://www.pledgebank.com/AdaLovelaceDay" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.pledgebank.com/AdaLovelaceDay?referer=');">a pledge to blog about a woman in technology I admire</a>.</p>
<p>Well in that sentence alone I&#8217;ve already mentioned two.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve already blogged about two other women in technology I admire: <a href="http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2009/02/02/jo-gearys-going-to-the-times-heres-why/">Jo Geary</a> and <a href="http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2009/03/11/why-the-kids-dont-use-twitter-and-other-insights-on-online-community/">danah boyd</a>. So that makes 4.</p>
<p>How about another 6?</p>
<p><a href="http://twitter.com/aleksk" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/twitter.com/aleksk?referer=');">Aleks Krotoski</a>, for instance, a games journalist and PhD student who has not <a href="http://twitter.com/paulbradshaw/statuses/1318112357" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/twitter.com/paulbradshaw/statuses/1318112357?referer=');">one great Delicious feed</a>, but <a href="http://twitter.com/aleksk/statuses/1321128508" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/twitter.com/aleksk/statuses/1321128508?referer=');">two, </a>which are both worth following. If more journalists were this well informed and transparent, more readers would be too.</p>
<p>Or <a href="http://www.bethkanter.org/about.htm" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.bethkanter.org/about.htm?referer=');">Beth Kanter</a>, a leader on how nonprofit organisations can use social media.</p>
<p>Or <a href="http://twitter.com/alisongow" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/twitter.com/alisongow?referer=');">Alison Gow</a>, <a href="http://twitter.com/foodiesarah" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/twitter.com/foodiesarah?referer=');">Sarah Hartley</a>, <a href="http://blog.angelaconnor.com/" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/blog.angelaconnor.com/?referer=');">Angela Connor</a>, or <a href="http://twitter.com/agahran" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/twitter.com/agahran?referer=');">Amy Gahran</a>, four more journalists using new technologies in innovative ways.</p>
<p>They happen to be female. I don&#8217;t think that matters. I hadn&#8217;t thought about it until now.</p>
<p>But I&#8217;m going to spend the next 20 minutes following links in <a href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=adalovelace" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/search.twitter.com/search?q=adalovelace&amp;referer=');">the Twitter search for #adalovelace</a> and a <a href="http://technorati.com/search/ada+lovelace+day?language=n" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/technorati.com/search/ada+lovelace+day?language=n&amp;referer=');">Technorati search for the same</a>. Hope you can join me. Did you find anyone new?</p>
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		<title>Mashups at the Liverpool Post: Yahoo Pipes for fashionistas</title>
		<link>http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2008/09/03/mashups-at-the-liverpool-post-yahoo-pipes-for-fashionistas/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 08:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Paul Bradshaw</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#8217;s nice when you host some training and something of use comes out of it. Alison Gow, who recently attended my Social Media for Breaking News training, has used it to build a Yahoo Pipe. It &#8220;filters all the latest news, photos and quality blog posts from the world of Fashion for the Girls Behaving Stylishly team to place on<br /><span class="read_more"><a href="http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2008/09/03/mashups-at-the-liverpool-post-yahoo-pipes-for-fashionistas/">Read more...</a></span>]]></description>
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<p>It&#8217;s nice when you host some training and something of use comes out of it. Alison Gow, who recently attended my Social Media for Breaking News training, has <a href="http://headlinesanddedlines.blogspot.com/2008/08/building-yahoo-pipe.html" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/headlinesanddedlines.blogspot.com/2008/08/building-yahoo-pipe.html?referer=');">used it to build a Yahoo Pipe</a>. It &#8220;filters all the latest news, photos and quality blog posts from the world of Fashion for the Girls Behaving Stylishly team to place on their blog as a widget, and to help them spot trends quickly without having to trawl the web.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Lifecycle of a news story in a web 2.0 world</title>
		<link>http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2008/09/02/lifecycle-of-a-news-story-in-a-web-20-world/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 13:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Paul Bradshaw</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Alison Gow has put together a wonderful comparison of how news production was done before web 2.0, and how it is increasingly done now, in five steps: Reporter gets potential story; reporter researches story; presentation; sharing the story; what next. &#8220;I had no idea when I started doing this how thin the &#8216;old&#8217; opportunities for investigating stories would look compared<br /><span class="read_more"><a href="http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2008/09/02/lifecycle-of-a-news-story-in-a-web-20-world/">Read more...</a></span>]]></description>
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<p>Alison Gow has put together <a href="http://headlinesanddedlines.blogspot.com/2008/09/lifecycle-of-news-story.html" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/headlinesanddedlines.blogspot.com/2008/09/lifecycle-of-news-story.html?referer=');">a wonderful comparison of how news production was done before web 2.0, and how it is increasingly done now</a>, in five steps: Reporter gets potential story; reporter researches story; presentation; sharing the story; what next.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;I had no idea when I started doing this how thin the &#8216;old&#8217; opportunities for investigating stories would look compared to the tools at our disposal now; it&#8217;s quite stark really. It drives home just how important mastering these tools is for journalists as our industry continues to develop and change.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Essential. Someone should knock it up into a nice diagram.</p>
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		<title>Should journalism degrees still prepare students for a news industry that doesn&#8217;t want them?</title>
		<link>http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2008/07/23/should-journalism-degrees-still-prepare-students-for-a-news-industry-that-doesnt-want-them/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 08:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Paul Bradshaw</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[UPDATE (Aug 7 &#8217;08): The Annual Survey of Journalism &#38; Mass Communication Graduates suggests employment opportunities and salaries are not affected. J-schools are generally set up to prepare students for the mainstream news industry: print and broadcasting, with a growing focus on those industries&#8217; online arms. There&#8217;s just one small problem. That industry isn&#8217;t exactly splashing out on job ads<br /><span class="read_more"><a href="http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2008/07/23/should-journalism-degrees-still-prepare-students-for-a-news-industry-that-doesnt-want-them/">Read more...</a></span>]]></description>
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<p><em><strong>UPDATE</strong> (Aug 7 &#8217;08): The <em><a href="http://www.grady.uga.edu/annualsurveys/Graduate_Survey/Graduate_2007/GradReport2007_PDF_v2.pdf" target="_blank" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.grady.uga.edu/annualsurveys/Graduate_Survey/Graduate_2007/GradReport2007_PDF_v2.pdf?referer=');">Annual Survey of Journalism &amp; Mass Communication Graduates </a></em>suggests employment opportunities and salaries <a href="http://advancingthestory.wordpress.com/2008/08/07/journalism-and-mass-comm-grads-still-getting-jobs/" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/advancingthestory.wordpress.com/2008/08/07/journalism-and-mass-comm-grads-still-getting-jobs/?referer=');">are not affected</a>.</em></p>
<p>J-schools are generally set up to prepare students for the mainstream news industry: print and broadcasting, with a growing focus on those industries&#8217; online arms. There&#8217;s just one small problem. That industry isn&#8217;t exactly splashing out on job ads at the moment&#8230;</p>
<p>The <a href="http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-times3-2008jul03,0,657523.story" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-times3-2008jul03_0_657523.story?referer=');">LA Times is cutting 150 editorial jobs</a> and reducing pages by 15%; <span><span>The <a href="http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_9898685" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_9898685?referer=');">Atlanta Journal-Constitution cutting nearly 200 jobs</a></span></span>; the <a href="http://blogs.reuters.com/mediafile/2008/07/16/wall-street-journal-cuts-and-pastes/" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/blogs.reuters.com/mediafile/2008/07/16/wall-street-journal-cuts-and-pastes/?referer=');">Wall Street Journal cutting 50 jobs</a>; Thomson Reuters <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2008/may/19/reuters.mediabusiness" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.guardian.co.uk/media/2008/may/19/reuters.mediabusiness?referer=');">axing 140 jobs</a>; in the UK <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2008/apr/25/newsquest.pressandpublishing1" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.guardian.co.uk/media/2008/apr/25/newsquest.pressandpublishing1?referer=');">Newsquest is outsourcing prepress work to India</a>, while also cutting<a href="http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/story.asp?sectioncode=1&amp;storycode=41446" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.pressgazette.co.uk/story.asp?sectioncode=1_amp_storycode=41446&amp;referer=');"> jobs in York</a> and <a href="http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/story.asp?sectioncode=1&amp;storycode=41676" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.pressgazette.co.uk/story.asp?sectioncode=1_amp_storycode=41676&amp;referer=');">Brighton</a>; <a href="http://blogs.reuters.com/mediafile/2008/07/16/wall-street-journal-cuts-and-pastes/" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/blogs.reuters.com/mediafile/2008/07/16/wall-street-journal-cuts-and-pastes/?referer=');">Reed Business Information</a>, <a href="http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&amp;ct=res&amp;cd=1&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pressgazette.co.uk%2Fstory.asp%3Fsectioncode%3D1%26storycode%3D41550%26c%3D1&amp;ei=bJ1_SN3ID4LGQbGY-cYN&amp;usg=AFQjCNHwVBm2nMBGo-aUTb11hs0dTqtS1Q&amp;sig2=fI7hxql672eBeqo_WK0fiQ" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t_amp_ct=res_amp_cd=1_amp_url=http_3A_2F_2Fwww.pressgazette.co.uk_2Fstory.asp_3Fsectioncode_3D1_26storycode_3D41550_26c_3D1_amp_ei=bJ1_SN3ID4LGQbGY-cYN_amp_usg=AFQjCNHwVBm2nMBGo-aUTb11hs0dTqtS1Q_amp_sig2=fI7hxql672eBeqo_WK0fiQ&amp;referer=');">Trinity Mirror</a> <a href="http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/story.asp?sectioncode=7&amp;storycode=41509" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.pressgazette.co.uk/story.asp?sectioncode=7_amp_storycode=41509&amp;referer=');">and IPC</a> are all putting a freeze on recruitment, with Trinity Mirror also <a href="http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&amp;ct=res&amp;cd=3&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.guardian.co.uk%2Fmedia%2F2008%2Fjul%2F01%2Fmirror.trainees&amp;ei=bJ1_SN3ID4LGQbGY-cYN&amp;usg=AFQjCNFhxc19E7ci3mS8UIE5zYQZj9ZIsQ&amp;sig2=igmE3wi4zGwGl8W4t01wYA" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t_amp_ct=res_amp_cd=3_amp_url=http_3A_2F_2Fwww.guardian.co.uk_2Fmedia_2F2008_2Fjul_2F01_2Fmirror.trainees_amp_ei=bJ1_SN3ID4LGQbGY-cYN_amp_usg=AFQjCNFhxc19E7ci3mS8UIE5zYQZj9ZIsQ_amp_sig2=igmE3wi4zGwGl8W4t01wYA&amp;referer=');">cancelling its graduate training scheme</a> and <a href="http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/story.asp?sectioncode=1&amp;storycode=41598&amp;c=1" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.pressgazette.co.uk/story.asp?sectioncode=1_amp_storycode=41598_amp_c=1&amp;referer=');">cutting subbing jobs</a>. <a href="http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/story.asp?sectioncode=1&amp;storycode=41732&amp;c=1" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.pressgazette.co.uk/story.asp?sectioncode=1_amp_storycode=41732_amp_c=1&amp;referer=');">In the past two months almost 4,000 jobs have vanished at US newspapers </a>(<a href="http://recoveringjournalist.typepad.com/recovering_journalist/2008/06/death-of-almost-1000-cuts.html" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/recoveringjournalist.typepad.com/recovering_journalist/2008/06/death-of-almost-1000-cuts.html?referer=');">Mark Potts has this breakdown of June&#8217;s 1000 US redundancies)</a>. In the past ten years the number of journalists in the US is said to have gone down by 25%.</p>
<p>Given these depressing stats I&#8217;ve been conducting a form of open &#8216;panel discussion&#8217; format via Seesmic with a number of journalists and academics, asking whether journalism schools ought to revisit their assumptions about graduate destinations &#8211; and therefore what they teach. The main thread is below.</p>
<p><span style="padding:0px;margin:0px"><span><a href="http://seesmic.com" target="_blank" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/seesmic.com?referer=');"><img style="border:none" src="http://seesmic.com/images/spacer.gif" border="0" alt="" width="100%" height="29" /></a></span></span></p>
<p>The responses are worth browsing through. Here&#8217;s my attempt at a digest:<span id="more-1177"></span></p>
<p>There is a general agreement that this is just the beginning of something very serious indeed.<a href="http://seesmic.com/v/ZMz9AFCGEb" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/seesmic.com/v/ZMz9AFCGEb?referer=');"> Alison Gow</a>, a journalist at the Liverpool Post, described recent events as the &#8220;first rattle of pebbles before the avalanche that follows&#8221;; Kevin Anderson of The Guardian <a href="http://seesmic.com/v/3wtRZo5d5a" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/seesmic.com/v/3wtRZo5d5a?referer=');">doesn&#8217;t think it&#8217;s unrealistic</a> for me to talk about a &#8216;worst case scenario&#8217; in three years&#8217; time where many newspapers fail and recruitment is zero.</p>
<p>Kevin draws parallels with the downsizing of IT industry and a need for multiskilling &#8211; subbing, writing, etc. <a href="http://seesmic.com/v/XleIMk05g5" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/seesmic.com/v/XleIMk05g5?referer=');">Jo Geary</a> at the Birmingham Post says &#8220;students now shouldn&#8217;t be educated for media organisations as exist now&#8221; and that they should also be made aware that newspapers are not what they think they are. My experience with students supports this: they tend to come onto the degree with a rather outdated, &#8216;monomedium&#8217; view of working in journalism.</p>
<p>There is a general desire for the news industry to start working harder to attract graduates who can help steer it through the coming shift. Andy Dickinson says the university system and students <a href="http://seesmic.com/v/wQ9V2ykjoi" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/seesmic.com/v/wQ9V2ykjoi?referer=');">have been underwriting the training and development of the news industry for a long time</a>. The industry needs to make it more attractive for students to make the financial sacrifice. That includes making it more exciting to work there and &#8220;not something out of the 1920s&#8221;. Alison Gow points out that journalism graduates <a href="http://seesmic.com/v/ZMz9AFCGEb" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/seesmic.com/v/ZMz9AFCGEb?referer=');">will have the choice between having their own website and joining a newsgathering organisation</a>, which gives them a stronger bargaining position and hopefully better salaries. As an industry we will need these people and will need to provide packages that make it an attractive place to work.</p>
<p>There is also a healthy journalistic scepticism about some of the figures: Jo Geary asks how many of the redundancies are production staff, and how many content creators. I wonder whether the oft-touted stat on the decline of American journalists is so severe because it only looks at the mainstream media and at those with the &#8216;journalist/reporter&#8217; job title. Does it overlook a rise in the likes of community editors, content moderators, multimedia producers and web editors?</p>
<p>In the light of that, there are still jobs in the industry. Andy Dickinson makes the distinction between &#8220;training people that the news industry <em>wants</em>, and training people that the news industry <em>needs</em>.&#8221; Sarah Hartley of the Manchester Evening News <a href="http://seesmic.com/v/XUe6q1LaYZ" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/seesmic.com/v/XUe6q1LaYZ?referer=');">points out</a> that newspapers have multimedia arms, TV stations, and radio stations. &#8220;You should prepare students for news organisations, not newspapers. They should be flexible, able to work in different formats.&#8221; She notes the biggest shift in newsgathering and news production and that the role &#8220;may be more to curate or manage content created outside of the news organisation.&#8221;</p>
<p>Neil MacDonald at the Liverpool Post <a href="http://seesmic.com/v/LIyuLhJbS3" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/seesmic.com/v/LIyuLhJbS3?referer=');">stirred things up by asking </a>&#8220;Why would an aspiring journalist now do a journalism degree? The industry will have been transformed by the time you graduate. What can you learn in three years that you can&#8217;t in one?&#8221; Online journalist Patrick Thornton <a href="http://seesmic.com/v/N0uFQAfSd2" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/seesmic.com/v/N0uFQAfSd2?referer=');">would not hire the majority of journalism graduates</a> and said &#8220;Most J-schools are obsolete&#8221;. Journalism entrepreneur and founder of <a href="http://Spot.us" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/Spot.us?referer=');">Spot.us</a> David Cohn <a href="http://seesmic.com/v/LQkLuYeGZK" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/seesmic.com/v/LQkLuYeGZK?referer=');">said </a>that, while he doesn&#8217;t regret studying his Masters in journalism at Columbia, he wouldn&#8217;t do it now. &#8220;The job description is changing, but universities aren&#8217;t adapting to change the changing mindset and skillset.&#8221;</p>
<p>Andy Dickinson and I both shared the view that the old 12-week training course just will not suffice in the modern environment; that the news industry <a href="http://seesmic.com/v/4qFXxliLIu" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/seesmic.com/v/4qFXxliLIu?referer=');">needs to get over its snobbery about journalism and media degree graduates</a> who have studied the theory as well as the practice, because these are the people who can &#8216;think outside the box&#8217; about the industry&#8217;s future.</p>
<p>The increasingly diverse nature of the journalism &#8216;job&#8217; presents an increasing range of elements that need to be taught &#8211; and a decreasing amount of space to do so. In this context it&#8217;s about teaching &#8216;mindset, not skillset&#8217;, as Kevin Anderson, <a href="http://seesmic.com/v/dG32ZdJfL8" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/seesmic.com/v/dG32ZdJfL8?referer=');">Mark Comerford</a>, Andy Dickinson, David Cohn and others pointed out.</p>
<p>Kevin perhaps put it best when he said:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;So many journalists think &#8216;If I&#8217;m a good writer, that&#8217;s all I need&#8217;. That&#8217;s bullshit. There is an arrogance among journalists about the craft of writing. Journalism students will need more than the ability to craft a good sentence.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s also about separating teaching journalism as a process from teaching it as a type of production, as Reed&#8217;s <a href="http://seesmic.com/v/yRuxs9wYem" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/seesmic.com/v/yRuxs9wYem?referer=');">Adam Tinworth put it</a> <a href="http://seesmic.com/v/6jI6eSRFxf" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/seesmic.com/v/6jI6eSRFxf?referer=');">and JD Lasica</a>. It&#8217;s a great point &#8211; but complicated by the question that in a new media age, are the two increasingly one and the same? (This very debate is an act of the journalism process being published).</p>
<p>There is a general view that entrepreneurial and business skills should be taught.  Kevin Anderson points out that this is the biggest opportunity for journalists to build a business. David Cohn says this hasn&#8217;t happened  &#8220;Partly because news organisations have a culture similar to the military, there&#8217;s a chain of command and no leeway to make your own decisions. Journalism schools are equally structured.&#8221; Anika <a href="http://seesmic.com/v/vlqFPwVlgh" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/seesmic.com/v/vlqFPwVlgh?referer=');">says </a>universities should show students how to better market themselves. Tom, a freelance journalist in China, <a href="http://seesmic.com/v/v9znhMCzeg" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/seesmic.com/v/v9znhMCzeg?referer=');">thinks </a>learning other languages will be increasingly important. JD Lasica <a href="http://seesmic.com/v/6jI6eSRFxf" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/seesmic.com/v/6jI6eSRFxf?referer=');">thinks we need journalists who can reinvent the industry</a>.</p>
<p>And Emap&#8217;s David Cushman emphasised the importance of teaching students how to build partnerships and <a href="http://seesmic.com/v/7AJUrirnNY" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/seesmic.com/v/7AJUrirnNY?referer=');">added the observation</a> that &#8220;everything is in beta now&#8221; &#8211; university courses should be no different.</p>
<p><strong>The conversation remains open -</strong> I&#8217;d love to know your thoughts either <a href="http://seesmic.com/v/FaetotnpDE" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/seesmic.com/v/FaetotnpDE?referer=');">via video on Seesmic </a>or in the comments below. I&#8217;ll update this post as new replies come in. You can also find comments on blog posts <a href="http://fasterfuture.blogspot.com/2008/07/are-journalism-students-being-equipped.html" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/fasterfuture.blogspot.com/2008/07/are-journalism-students-being-equipped.html?referer=');">by David Cushman</a> and <a href="http://www.andydickinson.net/2008/07/22/seesmic-and-the-newspaper-debate/" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.andydickinson.net/2008/07/22/seesmic-and-the-newspaper-debate/?referer=');">Andy Dickinson</a>.</p>
<p>Note: Kevin Anderson posted via YouTube and so his replies (and mine to his) aren&#8217;t included in the thread above, so it&#8217;s embedded separately below:</p>
<p><strong>UPDATE</strong>: JD Lasica has added <a href="http://seesmic.com/v/6jI6eSRFxf" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/seesmic.com/v/6jI6eSRFxf?referer=');">his response, &#8216;The Great Decoupling</a>&#8216; separately &#8211; also embedded below:</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[See this video and respond on Seesmic I&#8217;ve recently been playing with Seesmic once again, having briefly dabbled with an alpha invite a few months ago and stupidly written it off as a vague video blogging platform. It isn&#8217;t. It&#8217;s social. And I think that&#8217;s very important. Seesmic is, for me, a symptom of how media is changing. It is<br /><span class="read_more"><a href="http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2008/05/08/how-useful-could-seesmic-be-for-journalists/">Read more...</a></span>]]></description>
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<p><em><a href="http://seesmic.com/videos/ahjCGoed0A" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/seesmic.com/videos/ahjCGoed0A?referer=');">See this video and respond on Seesmic</a></em></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve recently been playing with Seesmic once again, having briefly dabbled with an alpha invite a few months ago and stupidly written it off as a vague video blogging platform.</p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s social.<span id="more-802"></span></p>
<p>And I think that&#8217;s very important.</p>
<p>Seesmic is, for me, a symptom of how media is changing. It is a symptom of how video has become as inexpensive and disposable as email. It is a symptom of a generation of people who are completely comfortable with visual media, and how they are rewriting that grammar.</p>
<p>It is also a new and important part of the personal distributed media ecosystem that we are gathering around us, and which stretches from a person&#8217;s Facebook profile to their Twitter account, their blog, and Flickr and YouTube accounts. Just as not everyone is on Flickr, not everyone will end up on Seesmic, but many will, and you&#8217;ll need to know how to talk to them.</p>
<p>But don&#8217;t mistake Seesmic for another YouTube. Seesmic is to YouTube what Twitter is to blogging. Key to this is the fact that Seesmic works with your Twitter account &#8211; so that new Seesmic posts are cross-posted on Twitter, and video replies are even cross-posted @ the other person&#8217;s name (allowing you to discover them on Twitter). And I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised to see it integrated with other social media platforms in the future.</p>
<p>Finally, it is an expression of the intimate, personal nature of web video, and how that is a world apart from the impersonal, broadcast nature of television. If you&#8217;re involved in communicating the news in any way, you need to learn the language of web video, and Seesmic provides a perfect space to do so.</p>
<p>And it&#8217;s for all of these reasons that journalists should try it out.</p>
<p>But this recommendation comes with a number of caveats:</p>
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<li>Firstly, Seesmic is very much in the early adopter phase. For this reason it is good for social networking if you&#8217;re in the technology field, but not great if you want opinions or feedback from anyone else, so don&#8217;t expect amazing results, and I wouldn&#8217;t recommend spending huge amounts of time on it. But the user base will change, and being there now will make a difference as it grows. Just ask people who&#8217;ve been blogging or twittering for longer.</li>
<li>Secondly, being video, Seesmic as a whole is not searchable &#8211; and the user search is pretty poor, as it only searches usernames and not profiles (<a href="http://seesmic.com/onlinejournalist" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/seesmic.com/onlinejournalist?referer=');">I&#8217;m onlinejournalist</a>, by the way). Phil Campbell has created <a href="http://microfil.ms/" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/microfil.ms/?referer=');">this website which allows you to search titles and authors</a>. This means you can&#8217;t scan-read it, it means search engines will not index it as well as text, and it means accessibility issues. But video search is improving all the time, so again expect this to change.</li>
<li>Thirdly, Seesmic currently lacks the sort of support enjoyed by bigger players such as YouTube. So whereas WordPress.com-hosted blogs will allow you to embed <em>YouTube </em>video, most WordPress bloggers will not be able to embed <em>Seesmic </em>video (there is, however, <a href="http://wiki.seesmic.com/Wp-plugin" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/wiki.seesmic.com/Wp-plugin?referer=');">a plugin for WordPress.org hosted blogs</a>). It&#8217;s for this reason that I&#8217;ve recorded my video blog about Seesmic on&#8230; YouTube. Ouch.</li>
<li>Likewise, your video is normally recorded straight to Seesmic, so you have no backup copy and no way of getting one unless you use an FLV ripper.</li>
<li>And the site doesn&#8217;t appear to tell you how many views you&#8217;ve had, which isn&#8217;t great for persuading people that this is a valuable way of, for example, distributing news. And it doesn&#8217;t allow for responses from non-Seesmic users, which reduces its interactivity (although you could tweet the person that&#8217;s not intuitive).</li>
<li>Finally, it&#8217;s worth noting the usual blurring of public-private boundaries. Journalists using material on Seesmic should bear in mind the lessons of Virginia Tech etc. &#8211; just because it&#8217;s public doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s yours.</li>
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<p>These are still early days, though. <a href="http://www.crunchbase.com/company/seesmic" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.crunchbase.com/company/seesmic?referer=');">Crunchbase&#8217;s entry on Seesmic</a> promises that:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;In the future, seesmic users will be able to record skype conversations, video and chat. seesmic will incorporate RSS feeds for individual users similar to <a href="http://crunchbase.com/company/facebook" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/crunchbase.com/company/facebook?referer=');">Facebook</a>’s newsfeed. Finally, [founder] Lemur sees seesmic partially becoming a crowdsourced Online TV with the most popular producers receiving revenue share.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>What do you think? Do you see other potential? Have you found it useful yourself? Come on, <strong>give us a comment. (or <a href="http://seesmic.com/videos/QDZNQQJjaf" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/seesmic.com/videos/QDZNQQJjaf?referer=');">respond on Seesmic</a>)<br />
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<p><strong>UPDATE</strong>: <a href="http://seesmic.com/videos/cz55EqGQz8" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/seesmic.com/videos/cz55EqGQz8?referer=');">Alison Gow posted a video response on Seesmic</a>, making the excellent point that Seesmic allows for a better interview experience &#8211; using the analogy of how face-to-face interviews are always better than telephone interviews. It&#8217;s a great point. She also suggests that it might work well for debates and conversation alongside news articles and issues.</p>
<p>The great thing about Seesmic is the way it breaks down barriers &#8211; people seem to feel more comfortable and confident, somehow, sending a stranger a video reply based on their video post than they would sending an @reply in Twitter, I would say because of the implicit intimacy of web video.</p>
<p><strong>UPDATE 2</strong>: If you&#8217;d like to try out <a href="http://seesmic.com/" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/seesmic.com/?referer=');">Seesmic</a> &#8211; just add <a href="http://twitter.com/getseesmic" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/twitter.com/getseesmic?referer=');">@getseesmic</a> as a friend in Twitter and DM it with the word &#8220;get&#8221; to receive an invitation.</p>
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