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		<title>Presentation: Law for bloggers and journalists (UK)</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:23:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Paul Bradshaw</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yesterday I hosted a session on law for my MA Online Journalism students, which I thought I would embed below. Some background: I teach all my sessions in a coffee shop in central Birmingham &#8211; anyone can drop in. This week I specifically invited local bloggers, and so the shape of the presentation was very [...]]]></description>
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<p>Yesterday I hosted a session on law for my <a href="http://www.bcu.ac.uk/courses/online-journalism" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.bcu.ac.uk/courses/online-journalism?referer=');">MA Online Journalism</a> students, which I thought I would embed below.</p>
<p>Some background: I teach all my sessions in a coffee shop in central Birmingham &#8211; anyone can drop in. This week I specifically invited local bloggers, and so the shape of the presentation was very much flavoured by contributions from <a href="http://lichfieldblog.co.uk/" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/lichfieldblog.co.uk/?referer=');">The Lichfield Blog</a>&#8216;s Philip John; Nick Booth from <a href="http://podnosh.com/blog/" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/podnosh.com/blog/?referer=');">Podnosh</a> and <a href="http://bevocal.org.uk/" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/bevocal.org.uk/?referer=');">BeVocal</a>; <a href="http://talkaboutlocal.org/" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/talkaboutlocal.org/?referer=');">Talk About Local</a>&#8216;s Nicky Getgood; Hannah Waldram of the <a href="http://bournvillevillage.com/" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/bournvillevillage.com/?referer=');">Bournville Village Blog</a>; <a href="http://www.gavinwray.com/" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.gavinwray.com/?referer=');">Gavin Wray</a>, <a href="http://cybrum.tumblr.com/" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/cybrum.tumblr.com/?referer=');">Matthew Mark</a>, and Mike Rawlins of Stoke&#8217;s <a href="http://pitsnpots.co.uk/" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/pitsnpots.co.uk/?referer=');">Pits N Pots</a>. The editor of the Birmingham Post Marc Reeves also came for an hour to share his own experiences in the regional press.</p>
<p>Two things occurred to me during the process of preparation and delivery of the session. The first is that law in this context is much broader: as well as the classic areas for journalists such as defamation, you have to take into account online publishing issues such as terms and conditions, data protection and user generated content.</p>
<p>Secondly, I&#8217;ve long been an advocate of conversational teaching styles (one of the reasons I teach in a coffee lounge) and this was a great example of that in practice. The presentation below is just a series of signposts &#8211; the actual session lasted 4 hours and included various tangents (some of which I&#8217;ve incorporated into this published version). Experiences in the group of students and guests ranged across broadcasting, print, photography, online publishing, academic study, and international law, and I came out of the session having learned a lot too.</p>
<p>I hope you can <strong>add some more points, examples, or anything I&#8217;ve missed</strong>. Here it is:</p>
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		<title>Removing Nofollow on blog links and meta &#8211; and invisible comments</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 09:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Paul Bradshaw</dc:creator>
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<p>A couple months ago I <a href="http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2008/09/02/why-im-changing-this-blogs-comments-to-dofollow/">installed a plugin on the blog that meant search engines would index links in comments</a>: by default WordPress uses &#8216;<a class="zem_slink" title="Nofollow" rel="wikipedia" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nofollow" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nofollow?referer=');">nofollow</a>&#8216; on comments to stop spammers abusing them to boost search engine rankings, but that prevents genuine commenters getting credit for their contributions.</p>
<p>One problem: as <a href="http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2008/09/02/why-im-changing-this-blogs-comments-to-dofollow/#comment-10522">one commenter pointed out</a>, the blog as a whole was set to &#8216;noindex-nofollow&#8217; &#8220;which equals a no trespasing sign for search engines for ALL of the site’s links. It’s Google suicide.&#8221;<span id="more-1826"></span></p>
<p>I added that problem to my vast to-do list, and moved on.</p>
<p>But that moved to the top of my to-do list recently when <a href="http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2008/11/01/bbc-pledges-to-link-out-but-holds-back-the-google-juice/">the BBC made a similar mistake with their linking mechanisms</a>.</p>
<p>So I scoured this blog&#8217;s code to delete the <a class="zem_slink" title="Meta element" rel="wikipedia" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meta_element" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meta_element?referer=');">meta tag</a> nofollow reference &#8211; to no avail.</p>
<p>I called for help from Twitter followers, and got two very useful suggestions: <a href="http://twitter.com/digidickinson/status/993322985" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/twitter.com/digidickinson/status/993322985?referer=');">Andy Dickinson found</a> <a href="http://yoast.com/wordpress/meta-robots-wordpress-plugin/" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/yoast.com/wordpress/meta-robots-wordpress-plugin/?referer=');">a plugin to alter the meta tags</a>; and <a href="http://twitter.com/gavinwray/statuses/993307928" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/twitter.com/gavinwray/statuses/993307928?referer=');">Gavin Wray pointed out</a> the much simpler option: in the blog admin go to <em>Settings &gt; Privacy &gt; </em>and select <em>make visible to search engines</em>.</p>
<h3>Invisible comments</h3>
<p>But now I have a new problem. As <a href="http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2008/09/02/why-im-changing-this-blogs-comments-to-dofollow/#comment-22253">Malcolm Coles pointed out in the comments</a>, the commenting system IntenseDebate uses javascript, which means &#8220;the comments are invisible to search engines in any case because they now rely on javascript to be seen … (try looking at those pages with javascript off to see what I mean).&#8221;</p>
<p>This is not only a problem for this blog, but for any organisation which uses javascript for its comments system &#8211; <a href="http://www.malcolmcoles.co.uk/blog/the-guardian-and-accessibility/" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.malcolmcoles.co.uk/blog/the-guardian-and-accessibility/?referer=');">including The Guardian, as Coles recently pointed out</a>.</p>
<p>As I wrote this post, Malcolm emailed to tell me about a <a href="http://www.malcolmcoles.co.uk/blog/seo-intensedebate-sezwho-and-disqus/" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.malcolmcoles.co.uk/blog/seo-intensedebate-sezwho-and-disqus/?referer=');">post he&#8217;d written about commenting systems and javascript generally</a>. IntenseDebate had responded to say they were &#8220;rolling out a non-javascript-friendly version which will be visible to Google although it&#8217;s still in beta.&#8221;</p>
<p>So there&#8217;s hope yet, but I don&#8217;t like the accessibility issue at all, so should I switch back to standard comments?</p>
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