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		<title>JEEcamp &#8211; when the cottage news industry met mainstream media</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Bradshaw</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[What happens when you bring together local journalists, bloggers, web publishers, online journalism experts and new media startups &#8211; and get them talking? That was the question that JEEcamp sought to answer: an &#8216;unconference&#8217; around journalism enterprise and entrepreneurship that looked to tackle some of the big questions facing news in 2008: how do you make money from news when<br /><span class="read_more"><a href="http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2008/03/18/jeecamp-when-the-cottage-news-industry-met-mainstream-media/">Read more...</a></span>]]></description>
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<p>What happens when you bring together local journalists, bloggers, web publishers, online journalism experts and new media startups &#8211; and get them talking?</p>
<p>That was the question that JEEcamp sought to answer: an &#8216;unconference&#8217; around journalism enterprise and entrepreneurship that looked to tackle some of the big questions facing news in 2008: how do you make money from news when information is free? Where is the funding for news startups? How do you generate community? What models work for news online?<span id="more-930"></span></p>
<p>Half the attendees represented the people behind the mainstream media&#8217;s attempts to get to grips with the web &#8211; the hyperlocal sites of the Teesside Gazette; the mapping and crowdsourcing of the Manchester Evening News; the blogs of the Birmingham Post.</p>
<p>The other half represented what is clear is an emerging cottage journalism industry: niche news websites; local blogs; citizen journalism and news prediction services.</p>
<p>Rick Waghorn&#8217;s keynote speech on his experiences of establishing and expanding <a href="http://MyFootBallWriter.com" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/MyFootBallWriter.com?referer=');">MyFootBallWriter </a> set things going perfectly. In particular his negative experiences of Google AdSense found a very receptive audience: despite 400,000 page impressions over the summer, he said, his AdSense revenues were only $180, while in seven years the most popular Harry Potter website has earned only $6,500 from the scheme. <a href="http://journalismenterprise.com/jeecamp-live-coverage/" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/journalismenterprise.com/jeecamp-live-coverage/?referer=');">Following proceedings online</a>, Graham Holliday added: &#8220;Bang on on Adsense &#8211; I do around 50,000 per month and make  $100 &#8211; $150 off of it.&#8221;</p>
<p>The verdict from Rick: &#8220;Clearly  if anybody is going to earn a living, it cannot be through Google Ads.&#8221;</p>
<p>Instead Rick explained his own business model &#8211; a combination of old-fashioned local ad sales; a self-built ad service, Addiply; affiliate sales; and syndication to those big publishers looking to add more local coverage to their global brands.</p>
<p>This was an &#8216;unconference&#8217;, so after Rick&#8217;s speech the emphasis was on discussion and exchanging experiences. The group discussing community <a href="http://www.charliebeckett.org/?p=492" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.charliebeckett.org/?p=492&amp;referer=');">spoke of the problem of users&#8217; &#8220;sporadic involvement</a>&#8220;; of journalists not connecting with people online; technological barriers to instant publishing; <a href="http://tomscotney.com/2008/03/14/response-from-jeecamp-1/" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/tomscotney.com/2008/03/14/response-from-jeecamp-1/?referer=');">the need for journalists to become brands</a>. There was an anecdote about bloggers recruited by the Birmingham Post &#8216;scooping&#8217; the paper by scheduling embargoed news to go live the minute the embargo was lifted. (Not that the journalist concerned felt this was a bad thing).</p>
<p>The group discussing business models scratched their heads at the possibility of OhMyNews&#8217; tip jar model working elsewhere and why it didn&#8217;t make a profit from ads and syndication; whether big publishers should buy up startups; and the problems of aggregation, <a href="http://www.martinstabe.com/blog/" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.martinstabe.com/blog/?referer=');">Martin Stabe</a> arguing that the only aggregators that had any chance of success were those that added something, such as geotagging.</p>
<p>The funding group talked of the importance of five year financial forecasts; how to tackle web-ignorant banks; why there was a need for a British equivalent of the Knight Foundation; and how angel investors want to see a big existing market because the risks of complete failure are lower.</p>
<p>And the online news models group discussed how journalism is not just about reporting, but networking; the importance of interaction on every level rather than simply forums; and the need to get out alerts, while ensuring accuracy.</p>
<p>The event was <a href="http://journalismenterprise.com/jeecamp-live-coverage/" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/journalismenterprise.com/jeecamp-live-coverage/?referer=');">covered live</a> by a team of <a href="http://www.mediacourses.com/courses.asp?cat=1&amp;courseID=6" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.mediacourses.com/courses.asp?cat=1_amp_courseID=6&amp;referer=');">journalism degree</a> students using <a href="http://journalismenterprise.com/jeecamp-live-coverage/" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/journalismenterprise.com/jeecamp-live-coverage/?referer=');">CoverItLive at JournalismEnterprise.com</a>, which enabled people to contribute to the discussion &#8211; and create discussions of their own &#8211; online.</p>
<p>In addition there was a <a href="http://journalismenterprise.com/jeecamp/" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/journalismenterprise.com/jeecamp/?referer=');">JEEcamp aggregator</a> which pulled together blog posts, images, video, bookmarks and tweets following the event, and a <a href="http://xfruits.com/paulbradshaw/?id=37819" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/xfruits.com/paulbradshaw/?id=37819&amp;referer=');">Twitter aggregator</a> pulling together tweets from attendees. Video of the event should appear on the <a href="http://ejc.net" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/ejc.net?referer=');">European Journalism Centre website</a>. <a href="http://alpha.bambuser.com/channel/markmedia/video/8713?page=" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/alpha.bambuser.com/channel/markmedia/video/8713?page=&amp;referer=');">Video of Rick&#8217;s speech was live streamed by Mark Comerford</a>.</p>
<p>Reflections on the event worth reading elsewhere include <a href="http://newswireblog.wordpress.com/2008/03/15/reflections-on-jeecamp/" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/newswireblog.wordpress.com/2008/03/15/reflections-on-jeecamp/?referer=');">Azeem Ahmad&#8217;s report on the day</a>; <a href="http://olago.wordpress.com/2008/03/14/jeecamp-destaques-highlights/" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/olago.wordpress.com/2008/03/14/jeecamp-destaques-highlights/?referer=');">Alex Gamela&#8217;s online highlights</a>; <a href="http://blogs.journalism.co.uk/editors/category/jeecamp/" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/blogs.journalism.co.uk/editors/category/jeecamp/?referer=');">Journalism.co.uk&#8217;s reports</a>; <a href="http://www.charliebeckett.org/?p=492" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.charliebeckett.org/?p=492&amp;referer=');">Charlie Beckett on community</a>; <a href="http://peteashton.com/2008/03/hubdub_is_a_game/" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/peteashton.com/2008/03/hubdub_is_a_game/?referer=');">Pete Ashton on news as a game</a>; and <a href="http://outwithabang.wordpress.com/2008/03/16/talking-the-talk-while-trying-to-walk-the-walk/" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/outwithabang.wordpress.com/2008/03/16/talking-the-talk-while-trying-to-walk-the-walk/?referer=');">Rick Waghorn&#8217;s blog posts written after the event</a>.</p>
<p>The day ended with a panel discussion of some of the emerging issues. As I looked out at the people gathered it occurred to me that in ten years time one half would probably have bought out the other half.</p>
<p>The question is, which half will be which?</p>
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